BRB_2024_06_05_MINUTESThe City of Lake Forest
Building Review Board
Proceedings of June 5, 2024 Meeting
A regular meeting of the Lake Forest Building Review Board was held on Wednesday,
June 5, 2024 at 6:30 p.m., at the Municipal Services Building, 800 Field Drive, Lake
Forest, Illinois.
Building Review Board members present: Chairman John Looby and Board members
Scott Renken, Joanne Bluhm, Sarah Lamphere, and Sally Downey
Building Review Board members absent: Eric Lohmueller and Justin Stamer
Staff present: Luis Prado, Assistant Planner, Abigail Vollmers, Senior Planner, and
Catherine Czerniak, Director of Community Development
1. Introduction of Board members and staff, overview of meeting procedures –
Chairman Looby
Chairman Looby reviewed the role of the Building Review Board and the meeting
procedures followed by the Board. He asked the members of the Board and staff to
introduce themselves.
2. Consideration of the minutes from the May 1, 2024 Building Review Board meeting.
The minutes of the May 1, 2024 meeting were approved as presented.
3. Continued consideration of a new residence on a vacant lot at 1175 Old Colony Road. A
conceptual landscape plan will also be presented.
Owned and Presented by: Mary Milligan Funk
Chairman Looby asked the Board members for any Ex Parte contacts or conflicts of
interest. Hearing none, he invited a presentation from the petitioner.
Ms. Milligan Funk reviewed that a two story home is proposed on a third of an acre
vacant parcel. She stated that her goal is to build a healthy house, using materials
that promote the health of its occupants. She stated that the house will be slab on
grade and the windows and doors will be inset to provide depth and richness. She
reviewed the proposed exterior materials noting that zinc colored 12 inch wide
standing seam metal, wood trim and shutters, and aluminum gutters are proposed.
She stated that the house complies with the allowable square footage and height
limitations. She addressed comments from the last Board meeting noting that the
driveway is reconfigured to comply with the maximum width of 16 feet within the front
yard setback and noted that the intended rear patio is now reflected on the site plan.
She stated that the plans overall now reflect greater detail including clarification on
the attic and enhanced detail on each elevation. She stated the intent to preserve
as many trees on the site as possible and that landscaping that exceeds the minimum
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required by the Code for a new house will be added to the site in the future. She
stated that a gravel driveway is planned with a brick or bluestone border adding that
the patio will also be brick or bluestone. She stated that in response to comments
from the Board, the gutters, scuppers, and downspouts will be consistent around the
home. She stated that the images presented reflect the actual garage door. She
compared the elevations presented at the last meeting to the elevations as now
proposed and pointed out areas of change including the addition of windows and
shutters in some areas, modifications to some of the window groupings and sizes, and
the addition of a dormer on the east elevation. She stated that in response to
questions from the Board, white stucco is proposed with a smooth finish. She provided
an illustration of the inset windows and doors adding that limestone sills are proposed
along with simulated divided lites. She presented a sample of the green color
planned for the doors. She stated that the light fixtures over the garage door and the
front door will be natural gas.
Mr. Prado stated that the revised plans presented by the petitioner take into account
the comments and questions offered by the Board at the last meeting. He stated that
findings are presented in the staff report in support of the petition as now presented
along with recommended conditions of approval.
Chairman Looby invited questions and comments from the Board.
Board member Bluhm complimented the changes made and thanked the petitioner
for her responsiveness.
In response to a question from Board member Lamphere, Ms. Milligan Funk confirmed
that the chimney will be masonry with a stucco finish.
Board member Downey thanked the petitioner for her responsiveness to the Board’s
previous comments. She stated that in her opinion, a stucco chimney is appropriate.
Board member Renken stated that the changes make the project even better than it
was when originally presented. He noted that the revisions address the concerns
about proportions and the lack of detail on the expansive, unbroken walls.
In response to questions from Board member Renken, Ms. Milligan Funk
acknowledged that backing out of the garage will be tight but noted that the
driveway cannot exceed 16 feet in width in the front yard setback. She stated that
the house cannot be pushed back due to trees in the rear yard that are intended for
preservation. She stated that lightweight concrete block will be used for the wall
construction and will also serve as insulation.
Chairman Looby stated appreciation for the time and effort put in by the petitioner to
respond to the Board’s comments. He thanked the petitioner for providing samples of
the exterior materials.
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In response to a question from Chairman Looby, Ms. Milligan Funk stated that she has
not yet determined the material that will be used for the base of the driveway.
Hearing no further questions from the Board, Chairman Looby invited public. Hearing
none, he invited final questions or comments from the Board. Hearing none, he
invited a motion.
Board member Downey made a motion to recommend approval of a new residence and
attached garage at 1175 Old Colony Road based on the findings presented in this staff report
which are adopted by the Board as part of the motion and incorporating the Board’s
deliberations as additional findings subject to the following conditions of approval.
1. Detail the exterior materials on the plans submitted for permit. The exterior
materials and color palette will be subject to staff review for compliance with the
materials as represented to the Board.
2. All modifications and refinement made to the plans in response to Board
direction or as the result of final design development, shall be clearly called out
on the plan and a copy of the plan originally provided to the Board shall be
attached for comparison purposes. Staff is directed to review significant changes
in consultation with the Chairman as appropriate to determine whether the
modifications are in conformance with the Board’s direction and
recommendation for approval prior to the issuance of any permits.
3. Prior to the issuance of a building permit, a detailed tree survey must be submitted to
the City for review. Tree species, condition, and size must be provided. City staff will
review the existing trees in the context of the drainage and grading plan and
determine the required replacement tree inches and if appropriate, require pre and
post construction treatment of the trees intended to remain.
4. Prior to the issuance of a building permit, the following materials must be provided and
will be subject to review and approval by the City.
a. A detailed landscape and hardscape plan. The plan shall, at a minimum, meet
the landscape standards for new residences detailed in the Code and all
required replacement tree inches on site for trees removed to the extent possible
using good forestry practices. Any inches not able to be accommodated on the
site shall be compensated through a payment in lieu of on site planting and will
be used to plant parkway trees in the general area of the property. The
landscape plan must include the quantity, species, and size at the time of
planting for all new landscaping.
b. A plan to protect the parkway trees, trees on neighboring properties, and trees
on the site intended for preservation that may be impacted during site
preparation and construction.
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c. A drainage and grading plan. No grading or filling shall be permitted except the
absolute minimum necessary to meet accepted engineering standards and
practices.
d. A lighting plan including cut sheets for all light fixtures proposed outside the house
and on the site. All fixtures, except those illuminated by natural gas at low light
levels, shall direct light down and the source of the light shall be fully shielded
from view. All exterior lights shall be set on automatic timers to go off no later than
11 p.m. except for security motion detector lights.
e. A plan for construction parking and materials’ staging. Old Colony Road shall
remain passable and free of mud and debris at all times.
The motion was seconded by Board member Renken and was approved by a vote of 5
to 0.
4. Consideration of a request for recommendations in support of approval of the demolition of
the existing residence at 245 W. Westminster and in support of a replacement residence,
attached garage, and a preliminary landscape plan.
Property Owners: The Lisa M. Geneser Trust, Christ Geneser 100%
Presented by: John Krasnodebski, Architect
Chairman Looby asked the Board members for any Ex Parte contacts or conflicts of
interest.
Board member Downey stated that she knows the neighbors to the west but will be
able to consider the petition objectively.
Hearing no further declarations, he invited a presentation from the petitioner.
Mr. Krasnodebski stated that the petitioners desire to demolish the existing home and
construct a replacement residence. He presented photos of the house, the wooded
property, and the surrounding neighborhood. He noted that the existing home is
approximately 4,300 square feet in size with a partial basement and was built in 1985.
He stated that the home is brick with an asphalt roof. He noted the various styles of
homes along the street including historic, traditional, and more contemporary homes.
He stated that the property is almost two acres in size. He presented a view of the
existing house from the streetscape noting that due to trees and vegetation, it is only
minimally visible. He presented a site plan of the existing home with an overlay of the
proposed replacement house. He pointed out that the front door of the new home is in
the same location as the front door of the existing home. He stated that the garage
location is proposed to change from the east side of the property to the west with a
greater setback from the side yard property line. He noted that the new home is
setback double the required distance from both side yard property lines. He stated
that no variances are requested. He reviewed the proposed site plan noting that a
second curb cut is proposed to facilitate vehicle movement through the site adding
that the reconfigured driveway will impact two Silver Maple trees located in front of the
home. He stated that due to the fullness of the trees, there is not much growing
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beneath the trees. He reviewed the elevations of the proposed house noting that the
design is transitional, based on English Arts and Crafts architecture. He reviewed the
proposed materials noting that limewashed brick, a cedar shingle roof, a limestone
chimney, limestone window surrounds, bronze windows, and copper gutters and
downspouts are proposed. He stated that the massing of the house is one and a half
stories in the center, and steps down to single story elements on both sides. He
acknowledged that further study and design refinement is needed to get the
relationship of the dormers to the roof line and the windows right. He noted the subtle
but elevated detail on each of the elevations around the home. He pointed out that
the rear elevation is detailed similarly to the front elevation with three dormers, a screen
porch, and expansive windows to take advantage of views of the rear yard. He
reviewed the east elevation noting that it is mostly one story and reflects a consistent
use of gables and noted the detailing of the chimney. He reviewed the west elevation
noting that the low screen porch element is visible and pointed out the individual
garage doors which are used to break down the appearance of scale. He
acknowledged that the highest ridge at the center of the proposed home is taller than
the ridge of the existing home but noted that it is below the maximum allowable height
for the property. He stated that the footprint of the proposed home is only slightly larger
than the footprint of the existing home. He stated that the petitioners first explored
renovating the home and adding a second floor but determined that the extent of
work and the limitations of working around the existing structure did not make sense
and could result in a compromised end product. He added that given the limited side
yard setbacks of the existing home, adding second floor massing could crowd the side
yard property lines. He stated that the proposed replacement house is smaller overall
than would have resulted from a renovation of the existing house. He summarized
noting that the new house as proposed has simple roof lines and is under the allowable
square footage. He reviewed the conceptual landscape plan noting the trees to be
removed in front of the house for the driveway and the new house. He stated that 60
replacement trees are proposed including ornamental and evergreen trees. He stated
that he is aware that the neighbors to the west submitted a letter and in response, he
stated that additional year round landscaping can be provided along the west
property line to screen the garage and provide privacy. He stated that the new plan
increases the amount of impervious surface on the site by about five percent due to the
house, and about 17 percent as a result of the additional driveway surface. He stated
that a grading and drainage plan will be provided and noted that there are low lying
areas in the deep rear yard that will remain. He concluded noting that although the
existing house is livable, it does not meet the needs of the owners.
Mr. Prado reviewed that the petitioner is requesting approval of demolition of the
house and approval of a replacement residence. He stated that the demolition
criteria are generally met with the exception that the existing house is habitable in its
current condition. He noted that the height of the proposed replacement residence
is close to the maximum height permitted on the lot and noted that as built drawings
will be required as construction progresses to verify that the as built height conforms to
the approved plans. He stated that correspondence was received from the
neighbors to the west raising concerns about the proposed relocation of the garage
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to the west side of the property and potential impacts on their property as a result.
Chairman Looby invited questions and comments from the Board.
Board member Downey complimented the proposed residence and the high quality
exterior materials. She stated support for the demolition of the existing house. She
noted that the property slopes to the west and expressed concern about the
potential for increased water runoff on to the neighboring property as a result of the
increased amount of impervious surface. She stated that further information is
needed on the proposed grading and the landscaping. She stated that with the
relocation of the garage to the west side of the property, enhanced landscaping is
needed along the west property line. She observed that the primary bedroom in the
proposed residence is adjacent to the neighbors’ garage on the east side of the
home. She pointed out that if the garage and bedroom are flipped, the bedroom will
have more screening on the west side of the house. She stated that visually, the site
plan appears to have a great deal of hardscape in front of the house despite the
large lot. She stated that drainage impacts should be considered very carefully.
Board member Lamphere complimented the design of the proposed house stating
that in her opinion, it will be a great addition to the neighborhood. She agreed that
drainage is a concern and encouraged the petitioners to work with the neighboring
property owners to assure that there is a coordinated effort to properly direct
drainage to avoid negative impacts. She stated confidence that the property will be
well landscaped.
Board member Bluhm started initial concern about demolishing the existing house but
stated that she accepts the reasoning as explained by Mr. Krasnodebski. She
complimented the proposed replacement residence and stated that it will fit well into
the neighborhood.
In response to a question from Board member Bluhm, Mr. Krasnodebski reviewed the
access on to the property and into the proposed garage adding that the garage
apron is sufficiently sized to accommodate the required turning movements.
Board member Renken commented that the materials provided to the Board are very
complete and well detailed. He stated support for the demolition and stated that the
proposed house is well designed with high quality exterior materials. He stated
concern about drainage noting that the three feet along the west property line is not
sufficient space to accommodate drainage and provide adequate landscape
screening. He acknowledged that the driveway needs to meet the side yard setback
within the front yard setback area but questioned whether the house could be
moved to the east a few feet or flipped to locate the garage on the east side of the
house. He noted that these shifts could allow the front of the house to be symmetrical
and provide more space on the west side of the house for drainage and plantings.
He noted that flipping the house would locate all of the pavement on the high side of
the lot, on the east and allow a basin to be created on the west. He commented on
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the front elevation noting that the windows in the side, lower masses are very large
adding that in his opinion, they do not need to match the windows in the center
mass. He suggested raising the bottom of the windows about 16 inches, the next
horizontal mullion, to differentiate them from the windows on the main mass. He
reiterated that drainage is a primary concern adding that more than three feet is
needed along the west property line to address drainage and landscaping.
Chairman Looby agreed that drainage is a concern. He encouraged careful study of
the garage apron to assure that there is sufficient space for vehicles to maneuver. He
stated that three feet is not sufficient space for plantings along the west property line.
In response to questions from the Board, Mr. Krasnodebski confirmed that real
limestone will be used. He agreed to consider raising the bottom of the windows on
the side masses. He stated a willingness to study drainage further as well as the
potential of shifting the house to the east to provide more space for drainage and
landscaping on the west side. He stated that there is more than adequate pavement
in front of the garage sufficient for maneuvering vehicles and agreed that
consideration can be given to reducing the amount of hardscape slightly to expand
the available land along the west property line. He stated that the driveway will be a
combination of gravel, with a pervious asphalt base, asphalt, and a paver border.
In response to a question from Board member Downey, Ms. Czerniak clarified that the
total impervious surface on the site as proposed is less than 20 percent, consistent with
percentages found on many other similarly sized properties.
Board member Downey stated that impacts resulting from the increased impervious
surface on the site should not be the responsibility of the neighbors. She reiterated
that details on how drainage will be addressed need to be developed and shared
with the neighbors.
Hearing no further questions from the Board, Chairman Looby invited public
comment.
John Gilbertson, 265 W. Westminster, stated that he and his wife submitted a letter to
the Board. He noted that Westminster slopes downhill and his property is at the
bottom of the hill. He expressed concern about the amount of hardscape proposed
on the site. He stated that an engineering study is needed to understand the
drainage currently and how it is projected to work after the site is redeveloped. He
acknowledged that the existing house is closer to the shared property line than the
proposed house but noted that there are significant plantings in place now. He
noted the consistent water problems on his property and the steps he has taken to
address them. He stated that his house has perpetual water problems because it sits
in a ditch between two properties with higher grades. He stated concerns that the
new and expanded hardscape on the property to the east will increase the water
runoff on to his property. He complimented the design of the new house but stated
that flipping the house to locate the new garage on the east side of the property
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would be a benefit to his property because there would be more space for plantings
along the west property line.
Ms. Gilbertson, 265 W. Westminster pointed out that as proposed, the new house and
hardscape extend to the property line shared with her home. She expressed concern
that the proposed plan will result in flooding along the east side of her home. She
stated that the percentage of impervious surface is misleading because all of the
hardscape is on the portion of the property adjacent to her home. She expressed
concern about noise and light impacts on her home and patio as a result of the
proposed design.
Jessica O’Connor, 225 W. Westminster stated that if the house is flipped and the
garage is located on the east side of the property, she will have concerns. She stated
that she also has standing water on her property at times.
Hearing no further public comment, Chairman Looby stated that the drainage and
grading plan will need to be reviewed by and will be subject to the approval of the
City Engineer. He encouraged the petitioner to shift the house to the east to provide
more space for plantings and drainage along the west property line.
He invited final questions and comments from the Board.
In response to a question from Board member Downey, Mr. Krasnodebski explained
that the garage is located on the west side of the house to maximize views from the
house to the yard and natural light into the home and to screen the pool equipment
from the neighboring home. He stated that consideration was given to locating the
garage on the east portion of the property however, the benefits of the currently
proposed location led to the design as presented. He stated a willingness to explore
shifting the house to the east to increase the space for plantings along the west
property line.
In response to a question from Board member Downey, Chairman Looby stated that a
10 foot wide area is large enough to support trees.
Board member Renken suggested consideration of a curb on the west side of the
driveway near the west property line to direct water to the street.
In response to a question from Board member Bluhm, Mr. Krasnodebski confirmed that
a wood or stone retaining wall, about three feet in height, is proposed near some
portions of the west property line.
Hearing no further questions from the Board, Chairman Looby invited a motion.
Board member Bluhm made a motion to recommend approval of demolition of the
existing residence based on the findings presented in the staff report which are adopted
by the Board as part of the motion.
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The motion was seconded by Board member Renken and was approved by a vote of 5
to 0.
Board member Renken made a motion to recommend approval of the replacement
residence, attached garage, and the preliminary landscape plan based on the findings
presented in the staff report which are adopted by the Board as part of the motion and
incorporating the Board’s deliberations as additional findings. He stated that the motion
is subject to the following conditions of approval.
1. Prior to submitting plans for permit, the following revisions should be addressed:
a. Shift the house and driveway to the east to Increase the width of the
landscaping bed along the west property line to a minimum of 10 feet OR
consider flipping the house to locate the garage on the east side of the
house.
b. Consider the addition of a curb along the west side of the driveway to direct
water to the street.
c. Consider raising the sills of the windows on the side masses of the home.
2. All modifications to the plans including those detailed above and any others
made in response to Board comments or as the result of final design
development, shall be clearly called out on the plans submitted for permit. Staff
is directed to review any changes, in consultation with the Chairman as
appropriate to verify that the modifications are in conformance with the Board’s
direction and approval prior to the issuance of any permits.
3. Include the following materials with the building permit submittal. The materials will be
subject to City review and approval prior to the issuance of a building permit:
a. A detailed landscape plan. The plan shall, at a minimum, meet the landscaping
standards for new residences detailed in the Code and in addition, provide
plantings to satisfy the required replacement tree inches using good forestry
practices to account for trees removed from the site. The plan shall provide a buffer
of trees along the west property line to the extent possible while provid ing for
appropriate drainage to minimize impacts on the neighboring property to the west.
b. A tree protection plan for trees intended for preservation on the property, in the
parkway, and on neighboring properties that may be impacted during construction.
If determined to be necessary by the City’s Certified Arborist, a pre and post
treatment plan for the trees shall be provided to increase the chances of survival of
the trees intended for preservation.
c. Detailed drainage and grading plans. No grading or filling except the absolute
minimum necessary to meet accepted engineering standards and practices.
d. Details of exterior lighting including cut sheets of all light fixtures. Light sources shall
be directed down and must be fully screened from view by fixtures except for those
illuminated by natural gas. All exterior lights shall be set on timers to go off no later
than 11 p.m.
e. A plan for construction vehicle parking and materials staging.
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The motion was seconded by Board member Bluhm and was approved by a vote of 5
to 0.
5. Consideration of a garage addition and rear addition to an existing residence at 632
Grandview Lane.
Property Owner: Brooke and Chris Sorto
Representative: Omar Gutierrez, Architect
Chairman Looby asked the Board members for any Ex Parte contacts or conflicts of
interest. Hearing none, he invited a presentation from the petitioner.
Mr. Gutierrez reviewed the existing elevations of the home noting that the home was
designed in the Colonial Revival style with an attached garage. He stated that currently,
the garage is not accessible from inside the house adding that the existing floor plan
does not provide the opportunity to create an interior connection. He noted that there is
limited landscaping on the property which is located mostly on the east and north
elevations. He noted that the backyard is at a lower elevation adding that aspect of the
property informed the options considered for additions to the home. He presented
images of neighboring homes noting that the homes are all simple forms with few
projections. He reviewed the proposed addition noting that the goal is an attached
garage which is accessible from the interior space, some squaring off of interior rooms,
and the conversion of the existing garage to a mudroom and storage area with access
to the new rear patio. He reviewed the proposed floor plan. He stated that in response
to a comment in the staff report, the addition of windows on the north elevation was
considered but the petitioner prefers a solid wall to support interior storage space. He
stated that landscaping can be used to soften the solid wall. He noted that the door and
window on the south elevation are prominent and help to break up that wall. He stated
that the octagonal window is whimsical and was requested by the petitioner. He pointed
out that the massing of the addition is simple and pointed out that the ridge of the roof of
the addition is lower than the ridge on the main mass of the home. He presented a
conceptual streetscape image pointing out that views of the rear addition will be limited
from off of the site. He stated that the details of the home are repeated on the addition
where appropriate. He presented the rear elevation of the addition and acknowledged
that the large windows are different from the windows on the house. He presented
photos of the existing views of the house from the street noting the large mature trees in
the front yard. He stated that any landscaping on the site that is impacted by
construction activity will be replaced. He stated that ta tree survey was submitted and
stated that no trees are planned for removal.
Mr. Prado stated that no variances are requested for the proposed addition. He noted
that the staff report calls out the opportunity for modifications to the windows to
balance the relationship between the openings and expanse of unbroken walls. He
suggested consideration of a rectangular shape for the rear addition rather than the
proposed octagonal shape to relate to the footprint and massing of the home. He
noted that there are other forward projecting garages along the street which have a
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similar relationship to the street as the proposed addition.
Chairman Looby invited questions from the Board.
Board member Bluhm commented on the east elevation and suggested consideration
of adding shutters under the pergola window. She stated that the garage appears
narrow and encouraged consideration of increasing the width. She stated that in her
opinion, given the limited visibility of the addition, the unbroken solid wall is acceptable.
She suggested adding landscaping along the north elevation or continuing the small
arbor to soften the solid wall. She pointed out that if the addition is squared off on the
west elevation, there will be increased interior space and construction costs may be
reduced. She stated that in her opinion, the octagonal shape is acceptable. She
noted that a variety of mutin patterns are reflected in the drawings and suggested that
consideration be given to more uniformity around the house. She agreed that if existing
landscaping is impacted by construction, replacement plantings should be required.
Board member Renken stated that the project will be a great improvement to the
house and will provide more articulation to the existing squarish house. He agreed that
shutters on the window in the linking element would be a worthwhile addition. He
noted that the opportunity to expand the width of the garage is limited because it
cannot be expanded on the right side. He noted that if the garage is extended to the
left, it will need to be re-centered. He complimented the dentil detail which is carried
from the house on to the addition. He agreed that consideration should be given to
more consistency in the use and pattern of muntins. He observed that there are double
windows on the house, but casement windows on the addition. He suggested
consideration of rectangular windows to align with the double hung windows or
groupings of windows. He acknowledged that the roof pitch is configured to avoid the
window on the second floor.
Board member Downey agreed with Board member Bluhm’s suggestion that shutters be
considered. She stated that initially she supported the addition of windows in the
garage but noted that because of the narrowness of the garage, she can support the
solid wall on the north elevation. She stated that widening the garage by a foot would
improve functionality. She stated that because the rear addition appears as a
sunroom, the octagon shape is acceptable. She noted concern about light impacts on
the neighboring home noting that the sunroom in the evening could be very bright if
there are no window treatments.
Board member Lamphere agreed that there is no need for windows on the north
elevation of the garage given the intent to use the interior for storage. She agreed that
some consistency with windows around the home and on the addition would be
beneficial. She stated that in her opinion, the rear addition is not in keeping with the
design of the house and encouraged consideration of squaring off the addition. She
noted that if the addition is squared off and a flat roof is used, views from the second
floor primary bedroom will be improved. She added that with a square configuration
the single story element could provide the opportunity for a future owner to expand the
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primary bedroom if desired.
Chairman Looby agreed that consideration should be given to widening the garage.
He also encouraged consideration of the addition shutters and greater consistency
between the windows on the addition and those on the front of the home. He
commented that the front façade of the house is pleasing. He agreed with Board
member Lamphere that a more regular configuration of the rear addition would
provide more livable area, minimize costs, and provide future opportunities. He stated
that the grill should be located away from the house.
Mr. Gutierrez responded to questions from the Board. He confirmed that the chimney
will be removed. He stated the intention to provide a crawl space and to step the
hardscape down to the grade in the back yard. He agreed to consider shutters for
some of the windows. He stated that a mix of window types are found around the
house, some with muntins and some without. He stated that the petitioners see no
value in having muntins in the windows on the rear addition or in using double hung
windows adding that the addition will not be seen from the street. He clarified that the
fireplace in the breakfast room will be removed noting that it is in an awkward location.
He reviewed the proposed rear patio.
In response to a question from Chairman Looby, Ms. Sorto explained that she and her
husband bought the home because they saw potential in the simple home. She stated
their intention to eliminate the boxy rooms, expand the living space, and open up views
to the backyard. She expressed interest in considering a wider garage and shutters on
some of the windows.
Hearing no further questions from the Board, Chairman Looby invited public comment,
hearing none, he invited final questions and comments from the Board. Hearing none,
he invited a motion.
Board member Lamphere made a motion to recommend approval of additions and
alterations at 632 Grandview Lane. She stated that the recommendation is based on
the findings as detailed in the staff report which are adopted by the Board as part of
the motion. She stated that the motion is subject to the following conditions.
1. Prior to submitting the plans for permit, consider the following:
a. Addition of shutters on the window near the garage.
b. Improving the balance between solids and voids on the north and west
elevations.
c. Consistency of the windows on the home and addition.
d. A square or rectangular shape for the rear addition.
e. Increasing the width of the garage.
2. All modifications to the plans including those detailed above and any others
made in response to Board direction or as the result of final design development,
shall be clearly called out on the plan. Staff is directed to review any changes, in
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consultation with the Chairman as appropriate to determine whether the
modifications are in conformance with the Board’s direction and approval prior
to the issuance of any permits.
3. Prior to the issuance of a building permit:
Tree Removal and Landscaping
a. A removal/protection tree plan shall be submitted and will be subject to review
and approval by the City’s Certified Arborist. The plan shall identify any trees
proposed for removal and trees identified for protection and preservation.
b. A plan shall be submitted identifying the location of tree protection fencing to be
installed prior to the start of construction and describing pre and post construction
treatments proposed to increase the chances of long term survival of the trees
intended for preservation which are located close to construction activity.
Drainage and Grading
c. Detailed drainage and grading plans must be submitted. Grading or filling shall
be limited to the minimum necessary to meet accepted engineering standards
and practices. The property must continue to accept water that is tributary to the
site and runoff from new construction must be addressed to avoid increasing
stormwater runoff on to neighboring properties.
Exterior Lighting
d. Details of exterior lighting shall be submitted with the plans submitted for permit.
Cut sheets for all light fixtures shall be provided and all fixtures, except those
illuminated by natural gas at low light levels, shall direct light down and the
source of the light shall be fully shielded from view. All exterior lights shall be set
on automatic timers to go off no later than 11 p.m. except for security motion
detector lights.
Construction Parking and Staging
e. A plan for construction parking and materials’ staging shall be submitted for
review and will be subject to approval by the City’s Certified Arborist, City
Engineer and Director of Community Development. Grandview Lane must
remain passable at all times and driveways unobstructed.
4. Any landscaping impacted by construction activity shall be replaced in kind.
The motion was seconded by Board member Downey and approved by a vote of 5 to
0.
6. Consideration of a building scale variance for additions and a pool house at 227 W.
Onwentsia Road, various alterations, and hardscape and landscape plans.
Property Owner: Christine Roth
Presented by: Tom VanDeWeghe, Project Manager
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Chairman Looby asked the Board members for any Ex Parte contacts or conflicts of
interest. Hearing none, he invited a presentation from the petitioner.
Mr. VanDeWeghe stated that the house was originally built in 1955 and was
expanded incrementally since the original construction. He stated that in his opinion,
the house is a mix of pieces without any architectural cohesiveness. He stated that
the house is mostly slab on grade. He stated that the petitioners purchased the house
in 2020 and the additions and alterations now proposed are intended to bring a
consistent style to the home and replace aging exterior materials. He stated that a
building scale variance is requested to accommodate additions to the home and a
pool house. He stated that the entire house will be re-sided to update it consistent
with the character of the neighborhood. He pointed out that the rear elevation is a
mix of gables adding that the proposed additions provide the opportunity to improve
the relationship of the various elements of the home. He stated that a formal entry is
proposed on the front elevation to celebrate the center of the house and the
placement of the dormers as proposed is better organized. He stated that an
addition is centered on the rear elevation with a cross gable and a masonry chimney.
He stated the intent to address various deficiencies of the home and simplify the roof
forms. He presented a site plan indicating the trees proposed for removal. He stated
that new trees are planned in the front yard to provide a buffer from the street. He
reviewed the proposed exterior materials including hardi-board shingles, synthetic
material for the trim, and limestone veneer. He noted the Conservation Easement
located along the west property line. He reviewed the plan for the addition of a pool
and pool house in the rear yard. He stated that the pool equipment will be located
inside the pool house and the walls will be insulated to mitigate noise from the
equipment. He stated that the petitioners are committed to planting extensive
landscape screening along the south property line. He presented elevations of the
pool house. He presented samples of the exterior materials proposed for the house
and pool house.
Mr. Prado confirmed that there is a Conservation Easement along the west side of the
property which must remain vegetated. He stated that low pillars are proposed at
the driveway entrance. He said that a building scale variance to allow a three
percent overage is requested to accommodate the additional square footage
proposed in the additions to the house and an additional 13 percent overage for the
pool house adding that the existing house is within the allowable square footage. He
stated that with enhanced landscape screening to screen the additional mass
proposed at the rear of the home and to screen the pool house, the criteria for a
building scale variance appear to be satisfied. He stated that the mechanical
equipment should be screened from view and to mitigate noise. He stated that
correspondence was received from neighboring property owners and was provided
to the Board. He stated that the staff report includes findings in support of the
petition.
In response to a question from Chairman Looby, Mr. Prado stated that removals or
plantings in the Conservation Easement are subject to City review and approval.
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Chairman Looby invited questions from the Board.
Board member Downey stated support for the building scale variance noting that the
proposed additions and alterations visually improve upon the previous disjointed
additions and modifications to the home. She agreed that the pool equipment must
be fully screened, and the sound mitigated. She acknowledged the letters from the
neighbors and stated that although some of the points raised are outside the purview
of the Board, the tree removal that previously occurred should be compensated by
replacement tree inches planted on the site.
Board member Lamphere complimented the house and the neighborhood. She
stated that details of the proposed driveway entrance piers should be provided for
review. She acknowledged that the building scale results from the petitioners trying to
work with the existing house. She commented that the pool house appears modest .
She agreed that landscaping is needed to mitigate impacts including light on the
neighbors.
Board member Bluhm expressed concern that there is no hardship necessitating the
square footage overage but complimented the planned improvements to the home.
She suggested that on the exterior of the home, primary materials should be limited to
two. She suggested consideration of extending the limestone and eliminating the
panels on the front of the home.
Board member Renken stated that the amount of the variance requested is not out of
line with some previous variances given the circumstances of the property. He
applauded the petitioners’ willingness to invest in the home. He stated that the triple
gable with no windows appears awkward and suggested consideration of eliminating
the third gable. He offered that a shed dormer could be considered. He
complimented the modifications to the front entry. He commented on the materials
and use of painted Hardi-board shingle on the first floor and stained shingles in the
gable ends. He suggested consideration of consistency in the materials and
treatments proposed.
Chairman Looby stated that the house is missing something on the front elevation
noting that the rear elevation is more visually pleasing than the front elevation. He
suggested tying the textures of materials around the home together. He stated that
the building scale variance, in his opinion, is justified and complimented the pool
house. He agreed that a detailed landscape plan is needed.
Mr. VanDeWeghe stated that the driveway material is currently undecided. He noted
that the driveway will need to be re-worked slightly to address drainage that flows
toward the house. He stated that the pool house is 19 feet tall. He agreed to study
the front door detailing further and noted that the door is off center which creates
some challenges.
Hearing no further questions from the Board, Chairman Looby invited public
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comment.
Mr. Miles, 230 Poplar Road, stated concern about the 20 foot tall pool house which is
proposed near the property line. He stated that the petitioners previously removed a
significant number of large trees from the Conservation Easement without a permit.
He asked that landscape screening be restored and enhanced on the site to screen
the proposed pool and pool house.
Mr. Gescheidle, 160 Basswood, agreed that year round landscape screening is
important. He expressed concern about the height of the pool house and light
impacts on his home. He expressed an interest in seeing the landscape plan before
the plantings are installed to assure that views from his home are considered.
Hearing no further public comment, Chairman Looby asked that plans be submitted
to the City for the driveway entrance piers. He invited final questions and comments
from the Board.
In response to questions from Board member Downey Mr. VanDeWeghe reviewed the
exterior materials. He stated that the stone is intended to be similar to the limeston e.
He agreed to reconsider the number of materials and the various textures and
treatments that are proposed.
Hearing no further comments from the Board, Chairman Looby invited a motion.
Board member Renken made a motion to recommend approval of a building scale
variance 227 W. Onwentsia Road to allow additions to the residence and construction
of a pool house and various alterations around the home based on the findings
presented in the staff report which are adopted as part of the motion and
incorporating the Board’s deliberations as additional findings. He stated that the
recommendation is subject to the following conditions of approval.
1. Prior to submittal for permit, reconsider, refine, and further detail the following:
a. The proposed pillars at the driveway entrance. Include details on lights and
gates if any are proposed. If the pillars are taller than four feet, they must
be set back at least three feet from the property line.
b. The front triple gable on the second floor.
c. The number of exterior materials and the variety of textures and treatments
of the materials.
2. All modifications to the plans including those detailed above and any others
made in response to Board direction or as the result of final design development,
shall be clearly called out on the plans submitted for permit. Staff is directed to
review any changes in consultation with the Chairman as appropriate to
determine whether the modifications are in conformance with the Board’s
direction and approval prior to the issuance of any permits.
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3. Prior to the issuance of a building permit, a detailed landscape plan shall be submitted
and will be subject to review and approval by the City’s Certified Arborist. The plan
shall, at a minimum:
a. Re-establish significant plantings, including year round plantings, in the
Conservation Easement.
b. Provide for significant plantings along the south property line to screen the pool
and pool house and to mitigate light impacts on neighboring properties.
c. Provide for screening of all mechanical equipment.
d. Provide foundation plantings around the additions and any areas of the home
where foundation plantings are disturbed.
e. Include the quantity, species, and size at the time of planting for all new
landscaping.
4. Prior to the issuance of a building permit:
Tree Removal/Protection
a. A removal/protection tree plan shall be submitted and will be subject to
review and approval by the City’s Certified Arborist. The plan shall identify
any trees proposed for removal and trees identified for protection and
preservation.
b. A plan shall be submitted identifying the location of tree protection fencing
to be installed prior to the start of construction and describing pre and post
construction treatments proposed to increase the chances of long term
survival of the trees intended for preservation which are located close to
construction activity.
Drainage and Grading
c. Detailed drainage and grading plans must be submitted. Grading or filling
shall be limited to the minimum necessary to meet accepted engineering
standards and practices. The property must continue to accept water that
is tributary to the site and runoff from new construction must be addressed
to avoid increasing stormwater runoff on to neighboring properties.
Exterior Lighting
d. Details of exterior lighting shall be submitted with the plans submitted for
permit. Cut sheets for all light fixtures shall be provided and all fixtures,
except those illuminated by natural gas at low light levels, shall direct light
down and the source of the light shall be fully shielded from view. All
exterior lights shall be set on automatic timers to go off no later than 11 p.m.
except for security motion detector lights.
Construction Parking and Staging
e. A plan for construction parking and materials’ staging shall be submitted for
review and will be subject to approval by the City’s Certified Arborist, City
Engineer and Director of Community Development. Grandview Lane must
remain passable at all times and driveways unobstructed.
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The motion was seconded by Board member Downey and approved by a vote of 5 to
0.
7. Consideration of a request for demolition of an existing house at 370 S. Ridge Road
and approval of a new residence and the associated hardscape, landscape, and
lighting plans.
Property Owners: Allen & Susan Mandell
Project Representative: Stuart Shayman, Stuart D Shayman Associates Architect
Chairman Looby asked the Board members for any Ex Parte contacts or conflicts of
interest. Hearing none, he invited a presentation from the petitioner.
Mr. Shayman stated that the petitioners intend on demolishing the existing house on
the 70,000 square foot, heavily wooded lot. He presented images of the existing
house noting that it is a ranch style home and has not been well maintained. He
stated that the property is on the corner bordered by Westleigh Road to the south
and Ridge Road to the east. He stated that both of the streetscapes are heavily
wooded. He presented an overlay of the footprint of the existing house with the
proposed house noting the intent to expand the footprint of the new home to the
west. He noted that the property has 50 foot zoning setbacks on three sides and a 20
foot setback from the west property line. He stated that currently, Ridge Road drains
on to the property and water flows across the property from east to west. He stated
that the plan proposes to raise the top of the foundation by 12 inches and the finished
floor by 12 inches. He noted that the staff report incorrectly states that a four foot
grade change is proposed. He acknowledged that the grade change is greater as
the property moves to the west. He stated that the proposed house is designed in a
contemporary style and consists of three parts, social space, private space, and
service space and reviewed the floor plan. He stated that a partial basement is
proposed. He noted other contemporary houses in Lake Forest as identified in the
staff report. He presented images of the homes with large planes of wall and high
windows similar to the architectural style desired by the petitioners. He presented
conceptual renderings of the house and each elevation. He stated that stucco is
intended as the primary building material. He stated that the tall window units around
the house are sliding doors. He noted that other areas of the home are punctuated
with windows and noted the clerestory window in the sitting room. He presented a
landscape plan, exterior lighting plan, and images of the proposed exterior light
fixtures. He stated that in response to comments in the staff report, the lights
proposed along the west property line were eliminated. He presented samples of the
cast cement stone proposed for entry wall noting that the stone is four inch long
interlocking pieces. He stated that the stone is proposed as a dark color. He stated
that the roof will be weathered zinc colored standing seam. He stated that large
columns are proposed at the front and back to support the deep overhangs.
Chairman Looby stated that veneer material should be a minimum of four inches
thick.
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Ms. Vollmers reviewed that the petitioners are requesting approval of the demolition
of the existing house and approval of replacement home and associated hardscape,
landscape, and exterior lighting as well as tree removal. She stated that the staff
report includes findings in support of the demolition based on the applicable criteria
subject to Board approval of an acceptable replacement residence. She stated that
as presented, the replacement home does not appear to align with the architectural
or dark sky character of the area. She noted that a substantial amount of grading is
proposed to elevate the house, rear terrace, and pool. She noted staff concern that
the regrading could create increased stormwater runoff on to the neighboring
property to the west. She noted that significant tree removal is proposed on the site
adding that additional trees beyond those identified for removal may be impacted
as a result of the regrading proposed, change in hydrology on the site, significant
increase in impervious surface, and construction activity. She stated that based on
the current information, approximately 290 replacement tree inches are required.
She noted that the pool and surrounding terrace are directly parallel to the private
areas of the neighboring home to the west. She noted the potential for off site light
impacts not only from the pool area, but also from the house due to the expansive
areas of glass. She stated that the contemporary style of the home is distinct from the
more traditional style of architecture found in the surrounding area. She noted that
often contemporary homes are designed using some of the same design principles as
traditional architecture. She stated that the proposed color appears somewhat non-
residential in character. She noted that solar panels are proposed on the roof noting
that additional tree removal may be required in order to achieve optimum
performance of the panels. She commented that further review of the lighting plan is
needed to assure compliance with the required setbacks and to minimize off site
impacts.
Chairman Looby invited questions and comments from the Board.
Board member Lamphere commented that the community needs more one story
homes. She stated that a softer color palette should be considered. She noted that
the sliding doors appear to exit into landscaping which will need to be addressed.
She expressed concern about potential drainage and noise impacts on the
neighboring property to the west and stated that the pool equipment should be
located away from the property line. She asked for more detail on the front entry.
Board member Downey stated that she did some research on the interpretations of
contemporary versus modern styles and noted that many of the defining items are
found in the proposed home including a range of building materials, harmony with
nature, panels of glass, and eco-friendly aspects like solar panels. She stated that the
house overall adheres to the spirit of contemporary design. She commented on the
roof noting that it is difficult to understand and appears different in the various
drawings and it is unclear if it is flat or angled. She commented that the roof appears
to have too much heft and weight in the living room area and suggested that if the
roof line was symmetrical on both sides, the appearance may be more balanced.
She stated that the front door appears cavernous and the front facing roof line does
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not appear to create a sense of harmony with the site. She noted that the Ridge
Road streetscape is heavily vegetated and pointed out that none of the properties
have two curb cuts until south of Bridle Lane. She stated that the house is not grand
and does not appear to warrant two curb cuts. She stated that a single curb cut with
a wider drive will reduce the amount of impervious surface and preserve the
landscaped streetscape. She noted that all of the sliding glass doors open on to grass
and suggested pulling the hardscape up to the house noting that will pull the
hardscape further away from the neighboring property. She agreed that moving the
pool equipment away from the neighboring property will help to mitigate off site noise
impacts. She stated that the grade change in various areas on the site needs to be
clearly illustrated. She stated that she is not supportive of excessive grade change.
She stated that the house will not be seen from the street so the inconsistency with the
variety of architectural styles of homes in the area is not a concern. She stated that it
is important to select the right type of exterior material and to refine the roof lines to
achieve some consistency across the home.
Board member Bluhm stated support for the demolition. She stated that with respect
to the style of the proposed replacement residence, the structure appears a little too
stark and commercial. She suggested considering alternate materials or colors to
soften the appearance of the exterior. She stated that the contemporary style is not
the issue but instead, the starkness of the overall appearance.
Board member Renkin commented that the contemporary style is difficult to define
and is subjective. He stated support for the demolition of the existing house. He
expressed his hope that some of the 27 trees currently identified for removal could be
saved with some adjustments. He stated that there will be a significant impact on the
neighbors and on the streetscape if the trees and buckthorn are removed. He stated
that preserving more of the trees will benefit the neighboring property to the west. He
said that adjustments to the site plan need to be made. He stated that he is
comfortable with the contemporary architectural style and the two curb cuts. He
commented however that the house as presented is hard to read noting the variety
of window styles, roof lines, and materials reflected on the drawings. He stated that
overall, the house needs more uniformity and more order. He noted that other
contemporary homes are more organized. He noted concern with the amount of
impervious surface and the loss of trees. He stated that an increase of one foot in
grade on the property does not surprise him given the topography. He
acknowledged that the grade falls to the west and as a result, there is more house
that is visible. He suggested the west wing of the house could step down a bit. He
stated that the color palette should be softened, and the use of thin veneer should be
avoided.
In response to questions from the Board, Mr. Shayman stated that the house is about
17 feet in height. He noted that potentially, a 40 foot tall house could be built on the
site. He stated the intention to plant trees west of the pool and create a swale along
the west property line. He stated that there is currently a six foot fence along the west
property line. He stated that the Buckthorn will remain along Westleigh Road and on
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the north side of the property for privacy. He stated that tinted glass is proposed on
the house to mitigate off site light impacts. He stated that potentially, the pool could
be shifted to the east. He stated that a sun study was done to verify the feasibility of
solar panels in the proposed location. He stated that the pool equipment can be
shifted away from the property line. He described the entry noting that is it on an
angle with the covered area. He acknowledged that the columns at the front
entrance do not read well in the drawing. He stated that two driveway entrances are
important because there is no parking on Ridge Road and the petitioners entertain.
Mr. Mandell stated that they bought the lot because of the privacy. He stated that
from the west, the neighbors will only see the roof similar to what is visible today. He
stated that the vegetation along Westleigh and Ridge Roads will remain. He stated
that no one will see the front entrance of the home. He stated that he is willing to try
to save more trees if possible. He stated that about 13 of the trees to be removed are
dead.
Chairman Looby suggested that further consideration be given to the trees, grading,
materials, color, roof line, front entry, pool, hardscape, and overall softening and
warmth. He invited public comments. Hearing none, he invited final questions and
comments from the Board, hearing none. He invited a motion.
Board member Bluhm made a motion to continue the petition with direction to the
petitioner to consider the comments, questions and direction offered by the Board. She
noted that the Board is supportive of the demolition.
The motion was seconded by Board member Downey and was approved by a vote of
5 to 0.
8. Opportunity for the public to address the Building Review Board on non-agenda
items.
No additional public testimony was presented to the Board.
9. Additional information from staff.
No additional information was provided by staff.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:40 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Catherine J. Czerniak
Director of Community Development