HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION 2013/03/20 MinutesThe City of Lake Forest
Historic Preservation Commission
Proceedings of the March 20, 2013 Meeting
A regular meeting of the Lake Forest Historic Preservation Commission was held on
Wednesday, March 20, 2013, at 6:30 p.m., at the City of Lake Forest City Hall, 220 E.
Deerpath, Lake Forest, Illinois.
Historic Preservation Commissioners present: Chairman Kurt Pairitz, Commissioners Fred
Moyer, Jim Preschlack, Susan Rafferty Athenson and Mary Ellen Swenson
Commissioners absent: Commissioners Bill Ransom and John Travers
City staff present: Megan Neuman, Planner and Catherine Czerniak, Director of
Community Development
1. Introduction of Commissioners and staff, overview of meeting procedures –
Chairman Pairitz
Chairman Pairitz reviewed the meeting procedures followed by the Commission and
asked the members of the Commission and staff to introduce themselves.
2. Approval of the meeting minutes of the February 27, 2013 meeting.
The minutes of the February 27, 2013 meeting were approved with corrections on pages
9 and 21, as requested by Commissioner Moyer.
RETURNING PETITION
3. Continued consideration of a request for a Certificate of Appropriateness for a
new awning and wall and window signage for a new business at 270 Market
Square, Jolly Good Fellows.
Owner: Shawgate Lake Forest LLC
Tenant/Business Owner: Laura Fellow
Chairman Pairitz asked the members of the Commission to declare any conflicts of
interest or Ex Parte contacts. Hearing none, he invited a presentation from the
petitioner.
Ms. Fellows presented the revised sign plan and proposed awning for her new business
in Market Square. She stated that she took all of the Commission’s comments and
suggestions from the last meeting into account and revised the plan consistent with that
discussion. She described the plan st arting from the westernmost extent of the store
front. She described the awning that is proposed over the westernmost window noting
that the color has been changed to a dark green consistent with other awnings in
Market Square. She stated that the store name will be shown in 4” letters on the loose
awning valance. She stated that three descriptive words, in 6” letters are proposed at
the bottom of the window, below the awning. She moved to the next window stating
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that the business name will be located in the band above the window using pin
mounted letters. She moved around the corner to the east facing window noting that
three descriptive words are proposed in the band above that window again, using pin
mounted letters. She stated that the final component of the signage is a board sign
proposed on the east facing wall. She explained that the design of the board sign is
based on other board signs in Market Square. She noted that the sign will have lettering
and a cupcake graphic with muted colors consistent with the Square. She discussed
the proposed location of the sign set in from the corner, near the window and
described the mounting hardware. She stated that the proposed sign is the same
length and width as other board signs in Market Square. She stated that the projecting
sign proposed at the last meeting is no longer part of the proposal. She stated that the
traditional Market Square blue - green color is used prominently on the proposed
signage. She stated that the board sign conforms to the Code. She commented that
she listened and responded to the Board’s comments at the last meeting and stated
that the signage as now proposed fits well into Market Square. She stated that the
signage as now proposed does not set a precedent since it is based on existing signage
in the Square. She added that the proposed signage balances the signage on the
south side of the Square. She conclude asking for approval of the project as now
presented noting that it is consistent with the character of Market Square.
Ms. Neuman explained that signs and awnings that do not strictly conform to the Code
and to the City’s guidelines are presented to the Commission for review. She clarified
that the Commission has the ability to approve awnings and signage so long as the
Commission determines that the standard review criteria are met. She reviewed the
location of the space in Market Square noting that it is a corner space, at the base of
the north tower. She noted that the space has some distinguishing features. She stated
that since the last meeting, the petitioner looked at each component of the awning
and signage plan and made revisions in response to the Commission’s comments at the
last meeting. She confirmed that the lettering proposed on the band above the
window is in the same location as the sign for the previous business. She confirmed that
the overall signage is in compliance with the amount of signage permitted by the
Code. She noted that the previously proposed projecting sign is replaced with a board
sign as described by the petitioner. She stated that the current proposal takes cues
from other awnings and signs in Market Square. She noted that a mock-up of the
board sign was in place over the weekend reflecting the approximate location, size
and design of the sign. She asked for input from the Commission on the board sign
particularly with respect to its location in relation to the arch of the window. She stated
staff support for the petition.
In response to questions from Chairman Pairitz, Ms. Neuman confirmed that it is
appropriate for the Commission to consider the request as a whole, the awning and all
proposed signage. She confirmed that there is currently an awning over the
westernmost window of the storefront.
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In response to questions from Commissioner Preschlack, Ms. Neuman confirmed that the
outdoor seasonal seating was reviewed and complies with the Code. She explained
that as with any outdoor seating area, City staff will work with the business owner and
property owner if any problems arise and make any modifications that may be
necessary.
Commissioner Athenson thanked the petitioner for taking the Commission’s comments
at the last meeting into consideration and making modifications in response to the
discussion.
In response to questions from Commissioner Athenson, Ms. Fellow confirmed that the
ends of the awnings are open. She explained that the board sign will be set at the
same height as the bottom of the balcony. She noted that on the south side of Market
Square, the board sign is higher, lining up with nearby architectural elements. She
confirmed that she tested the board sign on the stone, but it did not read well. She
pointed out that the entrance door to her store is hidden and not immediately visible
like most other store entrances in Market Square.
Commissioner Moyer observed that the north tower is quite iconic and different from
the south tower. He noted that the north tower is illuminated during the date with light
from the east, south and west. He commented that first floor occupancy of a five-story
element does not necessarily come with the opportunity to put a sign on the tower. He
pointed out the repetition of the arch as it turns the corner noting that the design did
not anticipate a future sign. He commented that in that respect, a hanging sign would
be better, but still not something that should be done for other reasons. He observed
that the proposed sign covers a part of the masonry. He suggested that signage be
placed in the void of the window area to respect the opening as designed.
In response to questions from Commissioner Swenson, Ms. Fellows confirmed that wood
letters, not plastic, are proposed.
Chairman Pairitz invited public comment, hearing none, he commended the restraint
shown with respect to color on the proposed board sign and questioned whether the
sign would be more successful as a hanging sign.
Commissioner Moyer re-stated that a hanging sign is not appropriate in Market Square.
In response to questions from Commissioner Swenson, Ms. Fellows pointed out that the
arch at Williams Sonoma is much higher arch and has a different curve than her store
front. She added that the letters at Williams Sonoma are 20” tall and are located
above the keystone detail. She stated that on her store front, letters above the arch
could only be 11” due to the balcony located above. She explained that she
considered hanging the logo in the arch, but commented that it would need to hang
on the outside of the window due to the divided lites.
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Commissioner Moyer commented that a sign could be independent of the window
plane, bracketed out from the window assembly. He commented that his objection is
the conflict between the proposed sign and the way the tower turns the corner in a
uniform, clean, continuous way.
Commissioner Preschlack acknowledged the points made by Commissioner Moyer
comparing it to a previous Commission discussion of awning color and how a change in
color changed the look and feel of the building. He acknowledged that the proposed
board sign, in relationship to the arch, could change the look and feel of the building.
He noted however that Market Square is not a museum and that there needs to be a
balance between preservation and the need to announce a business and be
distinctive. He commented that at this location, there are limited options and some
give and take is needed. He acknowledged the concessions made so far by the
petitioner and commented that Market Square is an area of commercial businesses
and not a monument.
Commissioner Athenson wondered what the right solution is to assure that the business
has the visibility needed. She stated appreciation for all of the alternatives that were
explored by the petitioner. She questioned whether the brightness of the white on the
sign, or the logo itself, may be too much.
Chairman Pairitz agreed that the proposed board sign is well done. He stated however
that his reaction is that a blade sign, in the same manner as proposed for the board
sign, may be more appropriate because of the tower.
Commissioner Moyer stated agreement that businesses should be able to distinguish
themselves, but not at expense of the architectural integrity of Market Square. He
commented that in his opinion, there is unlimited potential to accomplish a successful
result. He reiterated that the void in the arch is a good opportunity noting that it faces
the train station and the entrance to Market Square.
Chairman Pairitz clarified that the Commission is not suggesting that the signage at
Williams Sonoma be replicated on this storefront. He clarified that the suggestion is that
signage for the new business be located below the limestone of the arch, in the glazed
area, to fill in the existing void.
Commissioner Moyer stated that the signage should be within the zone of the window,
in the transom. He stated that it would be acceptable to alter the window area, but
not the surface of the tower
In response to questions from the Commission, Ms. Fellows stated that in her opinion,
covering the window is not the best option. She noted that a sign at that location
would mask the divided lites. She added that she did not think hanging a sign in front of
the window would be permitted.
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Commissioner Swenson commented that the signage plan as now presented is more
successful than the plan previously presented to the Commission.
Commissioner Athenson agreed stating a willingness to support the petition as
presented.
Chairman Pairitz stated that Commissioner Moyer’s points merit some further discussion.
He explained that the Commission’s goal is to work with the petitioner to find a satisfying
solution that balances all interests. He noted that in the past, some signs and awnings
that have gone up in Market Square and nearby have been disappointing. He
affirmed that the Commission and the City overall is interested in supporting new
businesses but added that finding the right sign age solution is important.
In response to a question from Chairman Pairitz, Ms. Fellows stated that either a wall or
blade sign would be acceptable.
Commissioner Moyer pointed out that there is a great signage opportunity that could
provide the desired visibility from the east. He stated that a sign could be located on
pegs, independent from the surface of the window. In response to a concern about
blocking or interfering with the windows, he offered that the sign could have cutouts to
give it transparency.
In response to questions from Commissioner Preschlack, Ms. Fellows stated that the
current proposal is intended to be responsive to comments from the Commission at the
last meeting. She stated that she is anxious to settle the sign aspect because other
aspects of her business need her attention.
Commissioner Athenson stated that the petitioner responded to the questions and
direction offered at the last meeting. She stated that the proposed signage is
consistent with the spirit of other signs in Market Square located above businesses and
will give visibility to the business without being overdone. She noted the muted colors of
the sign and commended the petitioner for the background work done in developing
the proposal.
Commissioners Preschlack and Swenson agreed with Commissioner Athenson’s
comments.
In response to Chairman Pairitz’s comments about further consideration of a blade sign,
Commissioner Preschlack reminded the Commission that a blade sign was discussed at
length at the prior meeting. He reiterated that the present proposal is responsive to the
discussion at the previous meeting.
Chairman Pairit z stated that is not the Commission’s job to design the signage, but to
offer possible concepts that are worth considering in an effort to achieve the best
overall solution to meet various interests.
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At the request of Chairman Pairitz, Ms. Neuman noted that a letter was submitted in
general support of the petition with some questions about the height at which the wall
sign is proposed. She stated that the letter was provided to the Commission.
Chairman Pairitz invited public comment. Hearing none, he invited final comments
from the Commission.
Commissioner Athenson made a motion to grant a Certificate of Appropriateness for
signage, awnings and outdoor furniture for a new business, Jolly Good Fellows, at 270
Market Square subject to the following conditions of approval.
1. Digital photographic documentation of the complete existing façade including
detailed images of the affected storefront and the storefront in the larger context of
Market Square shall be submitted to the City for the City’s historic files.
2. Further refinement to the size and placement of the sign shall occur with final
approval by staff in consultation with the Chairman as needed.
3. Information on how the board sign and awning will be mounted shall be submitted
with the permit application for verification by staff that the hardware is installed into
mortar joints and does not impact the integrity of the brick.
4. Any modifications to the components of the signage plan, consistent with the
direction of the Commission, shall be submitted for review and a determination by
staff, in consultation with the Chairman as necessary, that the plans are in
conformance with the Commission’s direction prior to submitting a complete
application and plans for a building permit.
5. Dimensioned drawings of the storefront window and wood band shall be provided
for verification that the height and location of the pin mounted letters is consistent
with the graphic representation reviewed by the Commission.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Swenson and was approved by a vote of
three to two with Commissioner Moyer and Chairman Pairitz voting nay.
RESIDENTIAL PETITIONS
4. Consideration of a request for a Certificate of Appropriateness for facade and
roof modifications at 441 E. Westminster.
Owners: Jim and Maureen Goodwin
Representative: Bob Gebelhoff, designer
Chairman Pairitz asked the Commission for any conflicts of interest or Ex Parte
contacts. Hearing none, he invited a presentation from the petitioner.
Mr. Goodwin introduced the project explaining that since his family purchased the
home a few months ago, they have been doing cosmetic changes; painting and
repairing water damage. He stated that at this time, they would like to address the
rear of the house, the 1960’s addition noting that it is not in keeping with the Tudor
style of the house. He explained that it is his intent to bring the house back to its
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original style and to bring consistency to the various elements of the house.
Ms. Neuman confirmed that the 1960’s addition to the house was not in keeping
with the overall architectural style. She stated staff support for the new owners’
intent to modify the earlier addition to be more consistent with the original house.
She stated that the project appears to be generally consistent with the applicable
standards and will improve upon the existing appearance of the house. She noted
some areas of the proposed project that could benefit from further refinement
such as the proportions of the windows, the window in the dormer, the use of the
railing and the timbering details and asked for Commission input recognizing the
location of the project, out of view from the streetscape. She explained that
because the house is currently non-conforming to the zoning setbacks and work is
proposed on the portion of the house that is within the required setback, a zoning
variance is required. She noted that this project will be presented to the Zoning
Board of Appeals at an upcoming meeting. She noted that a letter was received
from the Lake Forest Preservation Foundation stating general support for the
project and encouraging further consideration of the windows and proposed
railing. She noted that the letter was provided to the Commission. She added that
the petitioners expected an e-mail indicating support of the project to be sent to
staff by a neighboring property owner, but to date, it has not been received. She
stated that the staff report presents findings in support of the project subject to
condit ions of approval and refinement of details in some areas.
At request of Chairman Pairitz , Mr. Goodwin reviewed photos of the existing house.
He pointed out the area proposed for alteration at the rear of the house indicating
the area of the 1960’s addition . He pointed out that the windows do not match
and noted the sliding doors which are in poor condition. He pointed out areas
where water damage is occurring and stated that the roof needs to be addressed
to fix the leaks. He stated that addressing the addition at the same time as the roof
makes sense. He agreed with the suggestions of staff regarding the need for
consistency of the windows and reviewed the proposed French doors and
balcony. He confirmed that the window on right gable will rem ain. He stated that
the remodeled addition will be stucco with timbering to match the front of the
house. He confirmed that there is timbering on the front of the house but it is hard
to see because it was painted. He stated that after this project is completed, the
house will be re-painted so that the timbering is visible.
Chairman Pairitz stated that in general, the project will be an improvement to the
house.
In response to questions from Commissioner Athenson, Mr. Goodwin reviewed the
back of the house noting the existing windows that will remain and the proposed
windows. He reviewed the proposed decorative iron work and noted that
consideration is being given to a copper awning over the back door. He
confirmed that the brick will not be painted and confirmed that simulated divided
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lites will be used.
In response to questions from Commissioner Athenson, Ms. Neuman confirmed that
the foot print of the house is not being increased. She explained that the area
where construction is proposed is located within the required setback and
because modifications are proposed, a zoning variance is required.
In response to questions from Chairman Pairitz, Mr. Goodwin confirmed that there is
no stucco on the existing house. He reviewed the west elevation noting that it is
currently brick and noted that the addition was stuck on to the corner.
Chairman Pairitz invited public comment, hearing none; he complimented the
project adding that the areas needing some refinement, the middle window and
the iron work on the right gable can be finalized with City staff.
Commissioner Athenson suggested that the windows be reviewed for overall
consistency and that the railing be removed to simplify the elevation.
Chairman Pairitz complimented the house noting that it is in a great neighborhood.
He complimented the proposed project and noted that execution will be
important to the success of the project. He suggested some areas where careful
attention should be paid including the double gable and the area of transition
between the brick and stucco. He noted that the roof s of the two gables do not
match up and commented that reviewing the intersection of original gable and
new roof form, which will extend toward the rear of the house, will be important.
Commissioner Moyer complimented the project and commented that the
proposed alterations are not visible from the streetscape. He observed that the
house has a number of eccentricities already and that allowing that character to
continue is not a concern.
Commissioner Athenson made a motion to grant a Certificate of Appropriateness
approving alterations to the elevation and roof of the existing non- historic addition
subject to conditions of approval.
1. Refinements as discussed by the Commission and as detailed below shall be
submitted for review and a determination by staff, in consultation with the Chairman
as appropriate, that they are in conformance with the Commission’s direction prior
to submitting a complete application and plans for a building permit.
a. The new 2nd story window shall be modified to be consistent in height with other
2nd story windows.
b. The proposed metal railing over the existing window on the south elevation shall
be removed.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Preschlack and was unanimously
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approved by the Commission in a 5 to 0 vote.
5. Consideration of a request for a Certificate of Appropriateness approving a
detached coach house and alterations to the residence at 950 E. Westminster.
A building scale variance is also requested.
Owners: John and Anastasia Svigos
Representative: Thomas Rajkovich, architect
Chairman Pairitz asked for any conflicts of interest or Ex Parte contacts, hearing
none; he invited a presentation from the petitioner.
Mr. Rajkovich introduced the petition noting that the property is known by the
historic name “Pinewold”. He explained that due to a death in the family, the
property owners are not present. He noted that his firm often is hired to work on
residences that have a sense of history and he noted that he has appeared before
the Commission on several occasions. He stated that this house was built in 1907-08
and was designed by Zimmerman, in the Prairie style. He noted that Jens Jensen
designed the ground of the property. He reviewed the boundaries of the original
estate noting that it extended to Lake Road prior to subdivision of the property in
the 1960’s. He provided a photo showing the historic entrance to the property. He
noted that the original coach house for the property was subdivided off from the
main house and is now a single family home in separate ownership from the main
house and is accessed from Woodbine. He explained that his clients want to build
a structure that will serve as a garage, a coach house, since there is currently no
garage on the property. He reviewed the surrounding homes that were
constructed after the historic residence noting that there is a mix of architectural
styles in the neighborhood. He pointed out the original coach house noting that it
provided some direction for the project. He reviewed the layout of the property
noting the proposed location for the new coach house. He reviewed a study
diagram that was done to evaluate the impact of the proposed structure at
various locations on the property on the neighboring homes. He stated that at the
proposed location, the new structure is exposed to three adjoining properties. He
noted that alternative locations for the new structure were studied and
commented that the option of building the new structure in front of the house was
not pursued. He reviewed an alternative that locates the new structure to the east
of the residence, but noted that location impacts the Jens Jensen landscape and
would be in proximity to a greater number of homes than the proposed location.
He added that at the east location, there is less opportunity to screen the structure
from neighboring homes with plantings. He discussed the existing residence and
reviewed some characteristics of Zimmerman’s architectural style noting the series
and clusters of windows, the cubic massing and the use of vertical elements. He
pointed out key features and details of the residence and discussed the balance
of vertical and horizontal elements. He stated that all of these elements were
considered in designing a new coach house work that will work well with, use the
same vocabulary as and be deferential to the historic property. He offered further
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comments in support of the selected location for the new coach house noting the
importance of siting the structure close to the service area of the house including
the kitchen. He added that the proposed location makes the most sense from a
utilitarian perspective and is respectful of the existing architecture. He noted that
this location is generally consistent with the historic location of the service area for
the property. He pointed out that the orientation of the coach house is based on
the house, not on the property line. He explained that this orientation allows the
wall of the new structure to be located 20’ 3” away from the property line. He
acknowledged that the eave extends to the 10‘ setback line. He stated that the
concept of an attached garage was explored, but was not pursued due to
concerns about overwhelming the historic residence with a continuous structure.
He stated that the location for the new structure as now proposed was determined
to be the best alternative based on a review of the various factors. He showed
images of the proposed location for the coach house and views from that location
in all directions. He stated that in addition to carefully selecting the location for the
coach house, a study was done to determine whether the structure could be
simply done as a garage noting that the family did not have any other specific
requirements for the structure. However, he noted that after study, it was apparent
that the low slung form of a garage would not be suited to the vertical aspects of
the historic residence. He explained that design development then focused on a
structure that would maintain the rhythm of the clustered windows and have a
character sympathetic to the main house which led to the two-story structure now
proposed. He reviewed the floor plan noting the car stalls, mechanical room and
the location of the stairs on the first floor. He explained that the second floor is
simply a multi-function room that provides informal family space. He noted that
the historic residence has many formal spaces, but no informal family areas. He
explained that the point of the composition is to respect the design, form and
character of the historic residence and gardens. He noted the dense landscape
cover along the property lines where the coach house is proposed and explained
that plants in that location currently do not get much sunlight. He noted that the
surface of the coach house will provide reflected light in this area to support
increased plant growth. He reviewed the elevations of the coach house. He
concluded stating that throughout the study and deliberations, the focus of the
project was how to respect the important historic house, be good stewards of the
property and provide a functioning garage to meet the family’s needs.
Craig Bergmann, landscape architect, stated that he was struck by the fact that
no owner of the property has ever pursued construction of a garage since the
property was subdivided. He said that the petitioners have been good stewards of
the property since purchasing it 8 years ago. He noted that during that time, they
have carried their groceries into the house through the front entrance and through
to the kitchen. He pointed out that shortly after purchasing the home; the
petitioners had to replace the green terracotta roof. He pointed out that the roof
is really green and with the roof at a higher elevation, it is less visible due to the
vegetation. He stated that a green roof at a lower height would be more visible to
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the neighboring property owners. He stated that the higher roof gets lost in the
trees with proper plantings. He noted that all of the adjacent neighboring
properties have some landscaping which will provide a screen in front of the 6’
fence around the petitioner’s property. He pointed out that only a two car garage
is requested. He noted that the two car garage footprint preserves space for
additional landscaping. He commented on the original Jens Jensen landscape
plan and the proposed location of the coach house in the context of the overall
property. He stated that the coach house is located appropriately on the site. He
noted areas where gardens will be developed on either side of the walkway on
the south side of the coach house. He confirmed that there is sufficient space for
the intended buffer of vegetation around the coach house. He provided a
streetscape view of the property noting that the coach house will not be visible
from the street.
Ms. Neuman stated that the process and design rationale for the project was
described thoroughly by the petitioners. She reviewed concerns raised by the
neighbors including how the second floor space will be used and concerns about
the mass, height and location of the proposed coach house. She reviewed the
role of the Commission noting that the Commission is responsible for evaluating
both the design aspects of project and the request for a building scale variance.
She explained that the existing historic residence exceeds the current allowable
square footage and as a result, a building scale variance is requested to allow the
enclosure of the porch and construction of the coach house. She explained that
the property was subdivided prior to the adoption of the Building Scale Ordinance
and through the subdivision, was left without a garage. She explained that the
proposed coach house meets a functional need by providing a garage where
none exists. She noted that the design of the structure evolved into a two story
coach house after consideration of the historic context of the property. She
added that the proposed enclosure of the porch contributes to the increase in the
building scale overage. She pointed out that other than a building scale variance;
no other variances are required for this project. She reiterated that staff received
calls about the intended use of the second floor space. She clarified that the
second floor of the coach house is intended for use as a family room, not a
separate living unit. She stated that the coach house will be an accessory
structure to the main house. She stated that the most impacted neighbors
expressed concern about the visibility of the structure. She noted that to date,
details of the landscaping intended along the property lines has not been
provided to the City. She stated that it will be important for the Commission to
understand the density and height of the proposed landscaping to determine
whether it will be sufficient to meet the criteria that must be considered for a
building scale variance. She added that a concern was raised about the
additional impervious surface proposed for the property. She noted that based on
a preliminary review by engineering staff, the project will not interfere with any
overland drainage routes. She noted that the Lake Forest Preservation Foundation
stated support for the project and asked that although the front entrance pillars
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are not part of the request, they be restored. She stated that findings in support of
the project are included in the staff report.
In response to questions from Commissioner Preschlack, Mr. Rajkovich confirmed
that no garage has existed on the property since the property was subdivided. He
noted that a house of this size and stature requires a garage. He commented that
the owners want to be good stewards of the property and explained that they
explored how to accomplish a garage on this property in a way that would meet
the standards of the Preservation Ordinance. He noted that a single story garage
was considered, but would be incompatible architecturally with the historic house.
He stated that after study, the structure was designed as a two story coach house.
He reviewed the proposed location of the coach house and explained that a Jens
Jensen landscape is located on the property and stated that the owners did not
want to interfere with that element of the property. He added that the owners are
also interested in providing a way to enter the house other than through the front
entrance hall. He noted that the proposed coach house would be located near
the service part of the house, away from the front door. He discussed the other
aspect of the project, enclosure of an existing screen porch. He explained that the
enclosure would allow use of the space all year round. He stated that the footprint
of the porch is not changing.
Commissioner Preschlack stated that he understands the need for a garage, but
questioned the overall scale and compatibility of the structure as proposed. He
noted that what started out as a need for a garage is now presented as a project
that adds further square footage to a property that is already over the square
footage that is permitted under the current ordinance.
In response to questions from Commissioner Preschlack, Ms. Neuman reviewed that
the Code provides criteria that the Commission must use to evaluate requests for
building scale variances. She clarified that the Commission is charged with
evaluating each request for a variance based on its own merits. She stated that
the evaluation criteria allow mitigating factors to be considered by the Commission
including whether the additional mass will be visible from the streetscape, the
extent to which the structure is screened by new or existing landscaping and the
architectural compatibility of the project with the surrounding structures and area.
Chairman Pairitz explained that the building scale Code provisions are not a “one
size fits all”. He noted that these provisions are generally used to assure that a very
large house is not proposed in a neighborhood of smaller homes. He stated that in
this case, a very large house already exists on the property. He stated that the
Commission is charged with using the building scale Code provisions to monitor
and control the context in which additions occur. He stated that the Commission is
charged with using the building scale variance criteria to assure that the context of
an area, the property and the surrounding historic district, remains intact.
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In response to questions from Chairman Pairitz, Mr. Rajkovich stated that the
proposed coach house will be at least 150’ away from neighboring homes.
In response to questions from Commissioner Preschlack, Chairman Pairitz confirmed
that there is no upper limit for building scale variances and again noted that the
context of the site must be considered and each request evaluated on its own
merits using the Code criteria.
In response to questions from Commissioner Preschlack, Mr. Rajkovich explained
that he always approaches a design from the perspective of minimizing impacts to
all surrounding properties. He acknowledged that everyone will want the structure
as far away from their property as possible. He stated that he, along with his
clients, looked at the site in good faith and assessed viable locations for the new
structure. He stated that he did his best to design it in a way that would
complement the existing historic residence and combine with the residence in a
way that it would allow it to be understood as an amplification of the house,
acceptable and appropriately fitting with the residence. He stated that to his
knowledge, the project was not discussed with the neighboring property owners.
Chairman Pairitz stated appreciation for the approach used by the petitioners and
architect, trying to understand the options available to achieve the project. He
stated that the Commission is in the business of working with property owners to
make grand old houses livable for today. He noted that allowing changes to
occur encourages investment in homes. He stated that a garage is a necessary
evil but noted that only a two car garage is proposed and applauded that
decision. He stated appreciat ion for the design presented and the sensitivity to the
historic residence. He pointed out that the structure proposed is not a utilitarian
structure , but one that will enhance the property. He stated that in his mind, the
landscaping need not completely block views of the structure noting that it will be
a rich and enjoyable view.
In response to questions from Commissioner Athenson and Chairman Pairitz, Mr.
Bergmann stated that before preparing a landscape plan, the petitioners are
waiting for direction from the Commission. He stated that the petitioners are in
complete agreement that there needs to be a softening of the west and north
edges of the property, along the coach house. He noted that to allow
construction, two 12" to 14 “ White Oaks will be lost. He discussed the existing
vegetation near the property lines. He noted that the west property line is irregular
rather than straight. He noted a row of mature Norway spruce commenting that
they were probably part of the Jens Jensen plan. He noted that a native wood
area wraps around the corner of the property. He stated that the property to the
west was likely cleared of buckthorn in the past and noted that the white oaks in
that area are like telephone poles, with little branching due to the limited sunlight
that gets into the area. He stated that the best screening will be provided by the
established evergreen trees. He noted however that there is room to enhance the
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woods with a native understory to provide further screening. He explained that the
plan is to create a shaggy, appropriately scaled planting around the new
structure, a combination of evergreen and deciduous plantings. He pointed out
that there is a stockade fence to the west and north which limits light so no spruce
trees will be planted, instead, native species such as white pines and swamp white
oaks will be used along with other appropriate species. He noted that the height
of the existing woods is taller than the historic three story residence. He stated that
trees and plantings that are persistent in holding their leaves will be used noting
that they will not all be evergreens, but will provide screening for three-quarters of
the year.
In response to questions from Commissioner Preschlack, Mr. Rajkovich confirmed
that alternative locations and forms for the structure were studied. He noted that if
a one story structure was used, but raised in height to relate to the historic
residence, a solid brick wall would result above the garage doors. He pointed out
that with the proposed plan, the expanse of brick wall is limited and the difference
in height is not substantial in exchange for the design benefits. He noted that the
ground drops off in the area of the proposed structure mitigating the height. He
stated that the foot print of the proposed structure is about half of the size of the
original coach house constructed for the house and noted that the massing is
much the same as the original structure. He noted that the petitioner gave up a
third car stall to diminish the structure in exchange for doing a composition that
would work well with the house. He stated that the proposed plan strikes a
balance of all factors.
Commissioner Preschlack complimented the architectural design but again
questioned whether there is a smaller alternative to what is presented, perhaps a
medium alternative.
In response to questions from Commissioner Preschlack, Mr. Rajkovich confirmed
that smaller schemes were considered early in the process. He noted that in the
design presented, ceiling heights are kept low and minimum clearance hardware
is used for the garage doors.
Commissioner Athenson stated that the one story option does not work with and
would detract from the original house. She stated that it is important to preserve
the dominance of the historic house.
In response to questions from Commissioner Athenson, Mr. Rajkovich described the
detailing planned for the new structure. He noted that a loggia is proposed at the
corner nearest the house to create a void to counter balance the tightness on the
site. He confirmed that the level of detailing will be appropriate for a subordinate
structure. He noted the importance of looking at buildings as ensembles, groups,
and assuring that they are not trying to compete with each other.
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Commissioner Swenson commended the petitioners for not proposing an attached
garage house noting that approach would diminish the integrity of the house. She
stated that in this instance, something would have been lost with that approach.
In response to questions from Commissioner Athenson, Ms. Neuman stated that the
enclosure of the screen porch accounts for about half of the additional overage
that would result from this project.
Chairman Pairitz invited public comment.
Herbert Prochnow, 949 Woodbine, stated that he is the neighbor to the northwest.
He stated that he does not dispute the necessity for a garage but stated concern
about the proposed second story living space above the garage. He stated that
as proposed, the second floor space provides the opportunity for a residential use
and stated that there should be some restriction on the use of the space.
Tom Hunter, a Lake Forest resident, stated that he is representing his parents who
live immediately west of the proposed structure. He commented that prior to
receipt of the mailed public notice, there were no communications about this
project from the petitioners to the neighbors. He stated that based on the
presentation by the petitioner and the Commission’s discussion, he believes that his
parents preliminary questions have been answered. He summarized the points
made in the letter that he submitted to the Commission on behalf of his parents
noting that due to previous subdivision of the property; there is no garage on the
property. He stated that his parents’ concerns are not related to the architectural
aspects of the project, but are related to the over building on the lot and the
proposed location of the new structure near the neighboring homes. He noted
that the petitioner purchased the home in 2004 and at that time, there was no
garage on the property. He commented that the purpose of building scale
regulations is to prevent the overbuilding or over dividing of properties. He noted
that the allowable square footage for a house on this property based on the lot
size is 7,200 square feet and the house today is 10,700 square feet, a 50% overage.
He noted that with the proposed conversion of the porch and the construction of
the coach house the structures on the property will total about 12,000 square feet.
He stated that his parents have no objection to the construction of a garage, but
stated that the proposed garage is the size of a modest house. He stated that the
idea of adding a family room suite above the garage is not based on a hardship
and a variance is not justified. He stated that his parents do not want a vertical
brick wall 18‘ tall within 10 feet of their property line. He stated that a two story
structure will not be adequately screened with landscaping. He pointed out that
the dimensions of the coach house are suited to three cars despite the fact that
only two garage doors are proposed. He stated that the structure is just too big
and there is no hardship to justify the variance. He noted that his parents are not
opposing the conversion of the existing porch space even though that element of
the project also exceeds the allowable square footage. He stated that enclosing
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the porch will not result in a change to the footprint of the structure. He noted that
his parents are lifelong residents of Lake Forest. He requested that the Commission
deny the request for a building scale variance to allow construction of the coach
house as presented. He reiterated that the existing house is already over the
allowed square footage.
Hearing no further public comments, Chairman Pairitz asked for staff explanation of
the permitted use of the structure.
In response to questions from Chairman Pairitz, Ms. Czerniak confirmed that
recently, a community forum was held to discuss the potential use of existing
coach houses as secondary residential living units but to date; second living units
are not currently permitted on properties zoned for single family use. She
confirmed that decisions on the use of accessory structures are not under the
purview of the Commission.
In response to questions from Commissioner Preschlack, Ms. Neuman confirmed
that it is appropriate for the Commission to consider the specific details of the
landscape plan since the adequacy of landscape screening is appropriate to
consider as a factor in determining whether the criteria for a building scale
variance are met.
Commissioner Athenson commented that architecturally, the alternative presented
is the obvious solution. She stated that by adding the second floor space, a solid
brick wall is avoided. She stated that there is a functional need for the accessory
structure since there is currently no garage on the property.
Chairman Pairitz clarified that the Commission is reacting to the specific solution
proposed in this petition and the context in which the building scale variance is
requested.
Commissioner Preschlack stated that the request must be considered in the
context of the surroundings. He stated an understanding of the interest in doing
what is in the best interests of the property owners with respect to architectural
consistency and stated an appreciation for the investment in the property. He
noted however that the project must be thought of in the context of the request
for a building scale variance. He stated that there are likely many solutions noting
that the right one has not yet been found. He noted that there is some
excessiveness to the project as proposed noting the two chimneys and excessive
space proposed. He stated that as presented, he cannot support the project.
Commissioner Swenson commented that the challenge was created when the
property was subdivided. She stated that some accommodation is appropriate
since the owner is paying the price for no allowance for a garage being made at
the time of subdivision. She stated support for the project as presented stating that
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a one story garage does a dis-service to the property.
Commissioner Moyer stated general support for the petition acknowledging the
legitimacy of the issues raised by the neighbors. He stated confidence that the
project will achieve the stated intent of providing adequate landscape screening.
He complimented the architect stating that in his opinion, the project is sensitive to
the issues raised and enhances the neighborhood.
Commissioner Preschlack requested that a detailed landscape plan be brought
back to the Commissioner for review and to allow a decision on whether it meets
the building scale variance criteria. He stated that the Commission owes it to the
neighbors to review the details of the landscape plan.
Chairman Pairitz agreed that a detailed landscape plan should be presented to
the Commission for consideration. He suggested that preparing the landscape
plan is an opportunity for the petitioners to communicate with the neighbors and
make an effort to address their concerns. He stated that different points of view
should be considered and asked that the petitioner incorporate reasonable
requests from the neighbors in the landscape plan. He stated that in his opinion, a
satisfactory landscape plan can be developed to provide proper screening. He
stated that to give the neighbors a venue for further discussion, it would be
appropriate for the detailed landscape plan to come back to the Commission.
Chairman Pairitz acknowledged Mr. Hunter in the audience who stated that he
understands where the petition is headed, but expressed continued concern
about the potential use of the coach house.
Chairman Pairitz explained that the use of the structure will be governed by the
Zoning Code, not the Historic Preservation Commission. He noted that as
explained by staff, under the current Code, use of the coach house as a second
living unit is not permitted.
Commissioner Athenson made a motion to support the project as presented
subject to presentation of a detailed landscape plan to the Commission for
evaluation of whether adequate screening of the coach house is provided.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Moyer and was approved by a vote
of 4 to 1 with Commissioner Preschlack voting nay.
Mr. Bergmann assured the Commission that the project team will communicate
with the neighbors in an effort to reach a solution.
OTHER ITEMS
6. Opportunity for the public to address the Historic Preservation Commission on non-
agenda items.
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There were no additional public comments.
7. Additional information from staff.
There was no additional information presented by staff.
The meeting was adjourned at 8:55 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Catherine J. Czerniak
Director of Community Development