HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION 2014/11/19 MinutesThe City of Lake Forest
Historic Preservation Commission
Proceedings of the November 19, 2014 Meeting
A regular meeting of the Lake Forest Historic Preservation Commission was held on Wednesday,
November 19, 2014, at 6:30 p.m., at the City of Lake Forest City Hall, 220 E. Deerpath, Lake
Forest, Illinois.
Historic Preservation Commissioners present: Chairman Pairitz and Commissioners John Travers,
Robert Alfe, Wells Wheeler, Jim Preschlack, Susan Athenson and Mary Ellen Swenson
Commissioners absent: None
City staff present: Catherine Czerniak, Director of Community Development
1. Introduction of Commissioners and staff, overview of meeting procedures.
Chairman Pairitz reviewed the meeting procedures followed by the Commission and asked the
members of the Commission and staff to introduce themselves.
2. Consideration of the minutes of the October 30, 2014 meeting.
The minutes of the October 30, 2014 meeting were approved with a correction as requested by
Commissioner Travers.
Commissioner Travers asked for an update on the outstanding minutes and requested that
copies of the Certificates of Appropriateness be provided to the Commission.
3. Consideration of a request for a Certificate of Appropriateness to approve a new residence
and the associated landscape plan on vacant property located at 1120 Elm Tree road. The
Commission previously approved a Certificate of Appropriateness for a new residence on
this property for different owners. The project now proposed is similar to the previous
proposal. No variance is requested.
Owners: Harry and Bea Hoopis
Representative: Austin DePree, architect
Chairman Pairitz asked the Commission for any conflicts of interest or Ex Parte contacts,
hearing none; he invited a presentation from the petitioner.
Mr. DePree introduced the petition noting that he was before the Commission earlier this
year, in May, for a new house on this property but noted that since that time, the
ownership of the property has changed along with the plans for the house. He stated
that the design is similar to the design previously approved by the Commission. He
reviewed the changes from the earlier design and the conceptual landscape plan. He
noted that the changes include the addition of a screened porch and some reduction in
other areas to accommodate the porch within the allowable square footage. He
reviewed the floor plan and stated that the massing and scale of the house are
consistent with other residences in the neighborhood. He reviewed renderings and
elevations and described the exterior materials and detailing. He commented on the
organized placement of the windows. He presented samples of exterior materials.
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John Mariani, Mariani Landscape, reviewed the landscape plan and tree preservation
plan. He stated that the house now proposed has a smaller footprint than the previous
house and as a result, there is little impact to existing trees. He stated that the important
trees on the site will not be impacted; only the trees within the footprint of the new house,
which are not significant trees, will be removed. He noted that in response to requests
from the neighbors to the south and west, appropriate landscaping is planned to screen
the new house from the neighboring homes. He reviewed the palette of plant materials
noting that they are naturalistic and in keeping with the architecture of the new house
and the character of the neighborhood. He stated that the intent is to plant the site so
that it appears like the house has been on the site for a while. He stated that the existing
hedge along Woodland Road will be removed noting that it is an invasive species. He
stated that more formal plantings will be located closer to the house.
Ms. Czerniak explained that as a result of the modifications to the plans, a slight
adjustment is needed to bring the new house within the allowable square footage. She
stated confidence that staff can work with the petitioner to eliminate the overage with
no substantial change to the plans. She stated that as the final landscape plans are
developed, the City’s Certified Arborist will work with the petitioner to ensure that
appropriate plantings are planned along Woodland Road and to provide some
screening from neighboring residences. She stated that findings are included in the staff
report in support of the project along with recommended conditions of approval.
In response to questions from Commissioner Athenson, Mr. Dupree explained that there is
a hierarchy of windows on the house. He pointed out that there are many examples in
the community that blend casement and double hung windows. He stated that he does
not believe that there is an inherent conflict with blending the window types as
proposed. He stated that the intent is to make the house appear as though it has
evolved over time.
Commissioner Athenson commented that in her opinion, the windows appear
inconsistent with the Colonial Cape Cod style.
In response to questions from Chairman Pairitz, Mr. DePree reviewed the windows as they
appear on the elevations and on the renderings. He stated that some variety in scale
and character adds charm to the residence. He acknowledged that the windows are
not repeated around the house but noted that importantly, the proportions are
consistent.
In response to questions from Commissioner Alfe, Mr. DePree reviewed the details of the
screen porch. He stated that the detailing and windows on the screen porch will repeat
those found on the house. He confirmed that the windows will be individual screened
panels.
In response to a question from Commissioner Alfe, Ms. Czerniak reviewed the setbacks for
the property confirming that the plan presented conforms to the applicable setbacks.
In response to questions from Commissioner Preschlack, Ms. Czerniak stated that the plan
is consistent with the Code limitation which limits building coverage of the lot to 30%. She
stated that the Code does not limit the total amount of impervious surface.
In response to questions from the Commission, Mr. DePree stated the house has a low
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profile to allow it to fit more quietly into the neighborhood.
In response to questions from Commissioner Wheeler, Mr. DePree acknowledged the
considerable pitch of Woodland Road and stated that at the time plans are submitted
for permit, all required drainage and grading plans will be submitted for review and
approval by the City Engineer.
In response to questions from Commissioner Athenson, Mr. Mariani explained that the two
evergreens identified are on the neighbor’s property and will be preserved. He reviewed
the trees on the site noting those that will be preserved and reviewed the drainage
patterns stating that the trees that are being preserved will not be impacted. He
identified the trees that are located within the footprint of the proposed house and pool
noting that they are slated for removal. He said that the rear yard is fairly open and
stated that vegetation will be planted to screen the pool from Woodland Road. He
described the existing vegetation that will remain and reviewed the proposed plantings
along the west and south property lines.
Hearing no further comments, Chairman Pairitz invited public comment; hearing none,
he invited final questions and comments from the Commission.
Commissioner Athenson complimented the project and the elegant design. She
commented that the design is consistent with traditional infill and is subordinate to the
older homes. She asked that further consideration be given to making the windows
more consistent around the house.
Commissioner Preschlack agreed with Commissioner Athenson’s observations about the
windows, but stated that he is willing to defer to the architect and homeowner in this
case. He complimented the landscape plan and stated support for the project.
In response to comments from Commissioner Athenson about the minor building scale
overage, Chairman Pairitz noted that variances from the allowable square footage are
usually granted based on a hardship or a need related to making the house more
serviceable. He stated confidence that the petitioner can find a way to mitigate the
overage since this is new construction. Hearing no further comments from the
Commission, he invited a motion.
Commissioner Travers made a motion to grant a Certificate of Appropriateness
approving the new single family dwelling, overall site plan and the conceptual
landscape plan based on the findings presented in the staff report and incorporating the
comments and deliberations of the Commission and the testimony presented at the
public hearing as additional findings. He stated that the approval is subject to the
following conditions of approval.
1. Plans submitted for permit must reflect the project as presented to the Commission.
a. The project must be in full compliance with the Building Scale Ordinance.
b. If any modifications are proposed, plans detailing the areas of change must be
submitted and will be subject to review by staff, in consultation with the Chairman
as appropriate, to verify that the plans are consistent with the intent of the
Commission and the approvals granted.
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2. The existing grades on the site must be maintained to the extent possible with only
changes necessary to accommodate proper drainage and good engineering practices.
3. Tree Removal Plan, Tree Survey, Tree Protection Plan – Prior to the issuance of a building
permit, the City’s Certified Arborist will review these materials and confirm the following:
a. Tree removal is limited to that necessary for construction and to trees in poor
condition elsewhere on the site.
b. Trees worthy of and able to be preserved are properly protected during
construction and if appropriate, treated pre and post construction to increase the
chances of survival.
c. Replacement tree inches are properly calculated and that the required
replacement is provided on site or through a payment in lieu of on site plantings.
4. Landscape Plan – Prior to a framing inspection, a final landscape plan must be submitted
for review and will be subject to approval by the City’s Certified Arborist. The Arborist’s
review of the plan shall include, but is not limited to the following:
a. Canopy and mid-story plantings are provided along Woodland Road, particularly
near the northwest corner of the site to screen views of the west elevation of the
house including the shed dormer.
b. The setback distance of the driveway from the south property line is maximized to
the extent possible, and in no case is less than five feet, and that landscaping is
provided in this area to provide screening between the two houses.
c. Inch for inch replacement for the trees removed from the site is provided on the
plan if there is adequate land area to support the plantings or is covered in part
by a payment in lieu of on site plantings.
5. Prior to the issuance of a building permit, a materials staging and construction vehicle
parking plan must be submitted to the City for review and will be subject to City
approval in an effort to minimize and manage impacts on the neighborhood during
construction.
6. Prior to the issuance of any Certificate of Occupancy, the site must be planted
consistent with the approved final landscape plan. If, due to the time of year, planting is
not possible, a bond in the amount of 110% of materials and labor must be posted with
the City to assure that the plantings are completed within 30 days after the start of the
next planting season as determined by the City.
7. This project must abide by all of the terms, conditions, restrictions, and provisions of The
City of Lake Forest City Code, and all other applicable codes, ordinances, rules, and
regulations.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Athenson and was approved in a 7 to 0 vote.
4. Presentation of preliminary concepts for replacement of the Woodbine Bridge located
on Lake Road, north of Woodbine Lane. Commission and public input is requested.
No action is requested at this time.
Owner: City of Lake Forest
Representative: Robert Ells, Engineering Superintendent, City of Lake Forest
David Shannon, P.E. Lochner
Ken Magnus, P.E. CFM, Bridge Program Manager, Bleck Engineering
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Chairman Pairitz invited a presentation from City staff noting that this presentation is an
introduction of this City project for initial input.
Mr. Ells introduced the project noting that preliminary engineering is underway to identify
options for addressing issues with the Woodbine Bridge. He stated that the bridge is
located on Lake Road, north of Woodbine Road. He introduced the City’s consultant,
Mr. Shannon, who is conducting the analysis. He said the project is presented to the
Commission and the public at this time for input prior to the selection of a design for a
replacement bridge. He provided some background on the bridge noting that it was
built about 100 years ago and is in poor condition despite the rehabilitation that was
completed 38 years ago. He stated that out of 100 possible points on the IDOT rating
system, the bridge received 33 points. He explained that given the condition of the
bridge, replacement, rather than restoration and repair, is proposed. He stated that
replacement is recommended for bridges that score below 50 on the IDOT scale. He
noted that the concrete arches and piers are original to the bridge and are in an
advanced state of deterioration. He noted that the piers show signs of cracking. He
pointed out that the bridge deck is 18’ wide, narrower than Lake Road which is 21’ wide.
He stated that the existing sidewalk on the west side of Lake Road is only 3-1/2’ wide and
does not meet accessibility requirements. He stated that the bridge railings were
replaced in 1978 and are deteriorating. He added that they are a substandard height
and that the gaps between the balusters do not meet the 4” maximum for safety. He
said the State Historic Preservation Office accepted the recommendation for
replacement of the bridge with the requirement that the design of the replacement
bridge be submitted for State review for compatibility with the historic district. He
explained that the City received Federal funds to support the preliminary design work.
He explained that most of the preliminary work, including environmental and drainage
analyses, and hydraulic studies, is completed. He stated that consideration of possible
designs for the replacement bridge is underway. He reviewed photos of the existing
bridge noting the deteriorated condition. He reviewed three styles proposed as options
for the replacement bridge: a box beam design which could be slightly arched to mimic
a spandrel arch, a steel plate girder design which is similar to the box beam design, or a
spandrel arch design. He stated that staff recommends the spandrel arch option for the
greatest consistency with the existing bridge. He acknowledged that the replacement is
proposed with a single, open arch to avoid locating a pier in the ravine. He stated that
although this will not replicate the historic design, this option will minimize any impact to
the ravine and will result in the removal of all concrete structures from the ravine. He
reviewed an elevation of the existing railings reiterating that they were replaced in 1978
and are deteriorating. He presented an option for a replacement railing that meets
current standards for height and closely mimics the existing railing. He presented some
other options for the railings. He stated that the intent is to construct a replacement
bridge that appears much like the existing bridge.
Ms. Czerniak reiterated that the initial technical studies have been completed and that
input and direction is requested from the Commission prior to preliminary work on a
design for a replacement bridge. She stated that input is requested on whether the
design should mimic the historic bridge or go in a different direction. She stated that the
design phase of the project is expected to take about 12-months.
Chairman Pairitz questioned if it is possible to rehabilitate, rather than replace, the
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existing bridge and if not, whether it is possible to completely rebuild the bridge exactly
as it exists today.
In response to questions from Chairman Pairitz, Mr. Shannon, the City’s consulting
engineer, explained that a physical inspection of the bridge was conducted and a
number of issues were identified. He stated that the bridge cannot be repaired because
of the age of the concrete. He noted that there is failure occurring internal to the
structure because of water infiltration. He explained that the concrete filled spandrel is
collecting water because the top is not sealed. He stated that it would be prohibitively
expensive to repair the bridge. He added that there are questions about whether the
foundations of the piers are intact noting that the original plans for the bridge are not
available. He stated that the bridge as currently constructed is a design that was
popular 100 years ago. He pointed out that there are better ways to build bridges today.
He stated that the State and Federal agencies may entertain a project that repairs the
bridge but commented that in his opinion, there is no reason to pursue that approach.
He stated that there are ways to recreate the existing bridge with a replacement bridge.
In response to a question from Commissioner Swenson, Mr. Shannon confirmed that it
may be possible to restore the existing bridge but that approach would be too
expensive.
In response to a question from Commissioner Athenson, Mr. Shannon confirmed that the
railings were reconstructed in the late 1970s.
Commissioner Preschlack stated that it will be important for the Commission to
understand what elements remain from the original bridge and who designed the
original bridge. He stated that understanding the historical context and the approach
taken on other bridges in Lake Forest will be helpful to the Commission in considering how
this project should proceed. He added that it would be helpful to have some
information on projected costs for the different options noting that in the past,
community members have gotten involved in preserving important structures. He stated
that based on the information presented to date, he is less inclined to move toward
replacement, rather than restoration.
In response to questions from Commissioner Preschlack, Mr. Ells clarified that the
concrete arches and the piers are original to the bridge. He stated that the rest of the
bridge was replaced in 1978. He confirmed that original plans for the bridge have not
yet been found but acknowledged that there may be local resources that could assist in
finding the plans. He stated that there are 15 vehicle bridges in Lake Forest and 10 have
been reconstructed or rehabilitated in the last 10 years.
Hearing no further comments, Chairman Pairitz invited public comment.
Maureen Grinnell stated that she is speaking on behalf of the Lake Forest Preservation
Foundation. She stated that the bridge is a Century old and was constructed during the
time of David Adle r and Howard Van Doren Shaw. She noted that the bridge was
designed to allow unique views of the Lake and the ravine. She stated that the
architectural integrity and the beauty should be preserved. She noted that the existing
bridge only has a sidewalk on the west side of the bridge but the proposed plan adds a
sidewalk on the east side where there are no connecting sidewalks. She stated that the
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open balusters allow views through the bridge. She compared the proposed plans with
the existing bridge noting that the three spans are replaced with a single arch. She
pointed out that changes are proposed in the height of the railing and width of the
railing cap. She stated that the thinner, taller bridge that is proposed will be inconsistent
with the historic character of the bridge and will be detrimental to the character of the
Historic District and the Lake Road streetscape. She stated that in recent conversations
with the State Historic Preservation Agency, the Foundation learned that IDOT’s
requirements can and will be waived for historic bridges. She stated that the Foundation
urges that the bridge restoration be considered by IDOT under a special review. She
urged ongoing discussion and planning and a focus on restoration of the bridge
consistent with the current character.
In response to questions from Chairman Pairitz, Ms. Grinnell stated that when viewed in
elevation, the existing bridge is a closed spandrel arch but the proposed plan indicates
an open spandrel arch, a significant difference. She suggested that mimicking the
current design would be more aesthetically pleasing. She noted that the existing railing is
the same width at the top and at the base.
Marina Currier, President of the Lake Forest Garden Club, stated the Garden Club’s
interest in the history of bridges and past involvement in preservation. She stated that in
the past there were discussions about filling in the ravines and the Garden Club was
involved in seeking mutually beneficial solutions. She questioned why widening the
bridge and adding a sidewalk on the east side of the bridge is important. She stated
that a sidewalk on the east side will not connect to anything since there are no sidewalks
on the east side of Lake Road. She stated that the best way to keep speeds down on
the road is to keep the bridge narrow rather than widening it.
John Dick, 900 Woodbine Road, provided photo shopped images of a closed spandrel
bridge noting that the bridge will look different with one long open space. He noted that
the information sent to the neighbors did not show the proposed expanded width of the
bridge. He pointed out the additional mass that will be added with the proposed plan.
He noted the comment that the ravine would not be disturbed but noted the side
abutments of cement that would be needed. He stated that the abutments would be
located in the steep slope setback and could disturb the ravine more than expected.
He presented a photo with a second 8’ sidewalk drawn to reflect the increased overall
width. He stated that the additional width of the bridge will impact some trees. He
urged caution in considering the changes proposed.
Hearing no further requests to speak from the public, Chairman Pairitz commented that a
sidewalk on both sides of the bridge is not a good idea. He invited response to public
testimony.
Mr. Shannon clarified that the sidewalk on both sides of the bridge is proposed as a
safety measure noting that it will give people a place of refuge on the east side of the
bridge. He added that the sidewalk also separates the road from the bridge railing to
protect the railing without installing a guard rail. He stated that to do something
differently, variances will need to be requested from the Federal and State governments
and the City will need to explain the reasons for the requested variances.
Chairman Pairitz stated that he heard a preference for more focus on character and less
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focus on execution. He invited comments from the Commission.
Commissioner Athenson commented that the proposed increased width of the bridge
seems to be an area of concern.
In response to questions from Commissioner Athenson, Mr. Shannon, stated that the
bridge is not individually listed, but is in the historic district. He stated that any
replacement would need to be designed in keeping with the character of the district.
He discussed the possibility of a curb and how that would affect the width of the bridge.
He reiterated that variances can be requested.
In response to questions from Commissioner Wheeler, Mr. Shannon stated that the
existing sidewalk is not wide enough to meet current requirements making it necessary to
widen the bridge deck.
In response to a question from Commissioner Swenson, Mr. Shannon stated that the
requirements are fairly strict with respect to the height of the railing and width of the
gaps between the balusters.
Commissioner Athenson stated that the balusters should be replicated to the extent
possible.
Commissioner Preschlack questioned how many accidents have occurred on the bridge
and stated that information would be helpful. He stated a preference for remaining
within the existing footprint of the bridge. He urged the engineers to be sensitive to the
feedback from the neighbors regarding the appearance of the bridge. He stated that
every effort should be made to replicate the existing bridge.
Commissioner Swenson questioned whether the Commission, with the information now
available, would support demolition of the bridge.
Chairman Pairitz summarized that the intent of the presentation was to get information
out about the Woodbine bridge project that is being considered and to provide input.
He stated that the engineers have said that the bridge is not safe in its present condition.
He stated that work is needed to determine whether the bridge can be rebuilt, or needs
to be replaced.
In response to comments from Chairman Pairitz, Mr. Shannon stated that if the bridge
was truly a historic bridge it could be repaired but cautioned that it may need the same
type of repairs again in ten years. He stated that the bridge has reached the end of its
life noting that it was already repaired in 1978.
Chairman Pairitz stated that economic impacts are not under the purview of the
Commission. He stated that it is important to understand if rebuilding the bridge is a real
option and if so, any drawbacks associated with that approach including the longevity
of the repairs.
Commissioner Preschlack said that in the future, if the Commission is presented with a
request to demolish the bridge and replace it, the standard demolition criteria will need
to be considered.
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Chairman Pairitz stated that safety issues need to be considered.
Commissioner Travers stated if in fact it is demonstrated that the bridge needs to be
removed, it seems that the best approach would be to replace it with a bridge that
replicates the existing bridge to the extent possible. He stated that in his opinion, all
modern safety standards should be met.
Ms. Czerniak summarized that the Commission would like further information explaining
whether or not the existing bridge can be repaired and what the drawbacks, if any, of
that approach would be. She noted that if the need for replacement is justified, the
Commission’s direction is that the replacement bridge should mimic, to the extent
possible, the existing bridge while at the same time, meeting reasonable modern safety
standards. She stated that updates on this project will be presented to the Commission
throughout the design development and study process. She stated that eventually, the
Commission will need to consider a request for a Certificate of Appropriateness for this
project.
5. Consideration of a request for a Certification of Appropriateness approving exterior
restoration of the Deerpath Inn, 255 Illinois Road. No variance is requested.
Owner: Lake Forest Investments, LLC
Representative: Mark Knauer, Knauer Incorporated
Chairman Pairitz asked the Commission for any conflicts of interest or Ex Parte contacts,
hearing none; he invited a presentation from the petitioner.
Mr. Knauer noted that the team for the restoration of the Deerpath Inn includes experts in
restoration, historic preservation and construction including Gunny Harboe, Cline
Hoffman and Stephen Wright. He added that Craig Bergmann Landscape is also part of
the team. He reviewed the restoration work presented to the Commission at a previous
meeting which included restoration of the windows and exterior materials. He reviewed
the various elevations of the building noting the different roof forms and exterior
materials. He noted that all of the windows are steel casement windows and
commented that Stanley Anderson put a lot of thought into the windows using a
variation on a theme. He stated that all of the windows are original, but some have
been modified over time. He stated that two glazing systems are used, putty and a lead
pane diamond pattern. He stated that all of the windows will be restored to their original
operating condition adding that where needed, the leaded glass sections will be rebuilt.
He stated that for the most part, the windows are in good condition. He stated that the
window air conditioner units will be removed. He stated that all original doors and
hardware will remain. He discussed the exterior materials noting that there are two types
of masonry on the building, a rough set stone which is in good condition noting that
restoration will be completed as needed. He stated that the brick areas are not in good
condition explaining that some of the red mortar has dried and fallen out. He stated that
the brick will be restored including the brick sills and stone copping and as needed,
replaced with like materials. He stated that all of the wood trim and faux half timbering
will be refinished and restored. He noted that the stucco on the original building is
cement stucco and that EIFS was used on the 1990’s addition. He stated that the true
stucco is in good condition but there are areas of the EIFS that need repair. He added
that the EIFS is slightly different in color and will be recolored to better match the true
stucco. He pointed out that there are presently a series of dormers and skylights in the
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roof structure and explained that the skylights will be replaced with dormers for
consistency. He added that the third floor windows will be replaced with steel frame,
divided light, thermal paned windows for the comfort of the guests. He stated that the
various storm windows will be replaced with consistent interior storms. He explained that
there are two roofing systems on the building noting that the missing clay tiles will be
replaced with in kind materials. He stated that all of the flat roofs will all be replaced
noting that they are not visible from the street because of their location behind the
mansard roof. He stated that all of the non-original components of the drainage system
will be replaced with original materials. He reviewed the garden room replacement
structure. He stated that the existing structure will be removed and noted that currently it
bifurcates the four arched windows in the main dining room. He stated that the windows
will be opened up and restored. He explained that the garden room will be replaced
with a conservatory with a planted roof and parapets. He reviewed images and the
detailing of the proposed conservatory. He discussed the changes proposed to the
entry to the Bar on the east elevation. He noted a covered entrance will be added and
will be configured to respect the grandeur of the windows in the Hearth Room. He
explained that the existing stairs to the entrance will remain and the awning will be
replaced. He stated that the existing signs around the Deerpath Inn will be replaced with
a new face and presented images of the proposed replacement signs. He stated that
the signage is intended to be subtle and will be the same size as the existing signs and at
the same locations.
Ms. Czerniak stated that this project is very similar to the Market Square restoration. She
stated that in conjunction with exterior restoration, significant interior upgrades and
renovation is underway as well. She stated that the guest rooms and main dining room
of the Deerpath Inn are currently closed. She stated that the intention of the new owners
is to restore the Inn and preserve it as a community landmark. She noted that findings
are included in the staff report in support of the project and the issuance of a Certificate
of Appropriateness.
In response to questions from Commissioner Alfe, Mr. Knauer stated that to the extent
possible, the ivy on the building will be preserved but he noted that extensive work is
planned and the ivy will be impacted. He stated that Craig Bergmann will be involved in
the efforts to protect and replant the ivy. He acknowledged that the ivy is part of the
historic of the Inn.
In response to questions from Commissioner Swenson, Mr. Knauer stated they are
proposing lighting under the canopy, but none on the building. He added that there are
street lights in front of the building which will remain. He stated that the existing lantern
will be removed.
In response to questions from Commissioner Athenson, Mr. Knauer explained that
replacing all of the EIFS on Windsor Hall with real stucco is not in the budget. He
reiterated that the EIFS will be repaired where needed. He stated that for the most part,
it is in fairly good condition. He stated that the color difference will be addressed. He
spoke to the chimney caps and buttresses stating that the missing elements will be
replaced. He stated that the intent is to return the appearance to the 1929 look of the
building. Commissioner Athenson encouraged the petitioner to replace the EIFS stucco
with cement stucco in the future when funds are available in order to match the historic
original cement stucco.
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In response to questions from Commissioner Travers, Mr. Knauer explained that the air
handlers on the roof of the conservatory will be located behind the parapet wall. He
explained that a very small unit is being considered and will be screened not only from
the ground, but also from the guest room windows above.
Hearing no further questions from the Commission, Chairman Pairitz invited public
comment; hearing none, he invited further comments from the Commission. Hearing
none, he invited a motion.
Commissioner Travers made a motion to grant a Certificate of Appropriateness
approving restoration, repair and replacement of limited exterior materials consistent
with the plan presented by the petitioner. He stated that the motion is based on the
findings detailed in the staff report and incorporates the materials submitted and
presented by the petitioner and the deliberations of the Commission as additional
findings. The approval is subject to the following conditions of approval.
1. Prior to the issuance of a building permit for the approved work, staff, in consultation with
the Commission Chairman as appropriate, is directed to review the plans and materials
submitted for permit. Depending on the extent of replacement that is determined to be
necessary, at the direction of staff, on site mock ups of replacement material shall be
installed to allow confirmation of consistency with the original materials to the extent
possible.
2. Staff is directed to conduct ongoing inspections as the work progresses.
3. The petitioner is directed to return to the Commission with detailed plans of 1) the Garden
Room, 2) awning frames and fabric and 3) signage. These items are not included in the
current approval.
The motion was seconded by Commissioner Athenson and was approved by a vote of 7
to 0.
6. Continued consideration of a request for a Certificate of Appropriateness approving
demolition of the existing residence at 20 E. Laurel Avenue and approval of a replacement
residence, attached and detached garages, driveway modifications and a preliminary
landscape plan. No variance is requested.
Owner: Donald and Nancy Surber
Representative: Betsy Williams, Orren Pickell
Chairman Pairitz asked the Commission for any conflicts of interest or Ex Parte contacts.
Commissioner Wheeler stated that he is involved in projects with Orren Pickell but stated
that he can rule on the petition objectively.
Chairman Pairitz invited a presentation from the petitioner.
Mr. Surber stated that when they purchased the home, their vision was to live near the
Central Business District, have a home with a first floor master bedroom, on a country-like
property. He stated that the property is 1.3 acres. He stated that since the last meeting,
he met with and listened to the neighbors and City staff. He introduced the project
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team to review the revised plan.
Ms. Williams reviewed the concerns raised by the neighbors. She stated that there is
concern about existing drainage on the properties to the east. She stated that the
proposed plan will improve upon the existing drainage conditions. She pointed out that
the footprint of the house was moved to the west to provide a larger area within which
to construct a berm and plant landscaping to provide screening along the east property
line. She reviewed a conceptual landscape plan for the east property line noting the
enhanced plantings now planned. She stated that in response to suggestions from the
Commission, the existing house will be well documented prior to demolition. She noted
that in response to concerns about the height of the garages, they were lowered by 3
feet. She stated that concerns about the front façade were addressed by removing the
gazebo and adding a wrap-around porch. She stated that the dormers, the overall front
façade and the exterior materials were simplified. She stated that the roof forms were
simplified and modified to achieve more consistency. She discussed the garages and
explained that the amount of fill proposed in that area was reduced. She confirmed
that the height of the garages will meet the City’s regulations. She reviewed the
measures taken to mitigate the impact of headlights on neighboring properties. She
reviewed views of the property as they exist today from the neighboring homes. She
concluded stating that the drainage is addressed and that additional landscaping can
be added to the plan if determined to be necessary.
Jeff Cooper, project engineer, reviewed the storm water drainage patterns on the site.
He stated that the new house will be at generally the same location as the existing house
and noted that the top of foundation is proposed at the same height as the existing
house. He stated that the main concern of the neighbors is that the driveway is
relocated from the west to the east side of the property with the new plan. He reviewed
the drainage patterns in the area east of the proposed house and noted the setback
distance from the property line. He stated that the proposed drainage swale has about
double the capacity needed to handle the runoff from the Surber property. He stated
that in his opinion, the project will improve upon the current drainage situation on the
neighboring properties.
Ms. Czerniak noted that this project was previously before the Commission and several
concerns were raised. She acknowledged that considerable work was done since the
previous meeting to simplify the proposed replacement residence. She stated that at
the rear of the site, some fill is still proposed and suggested that further work be done as
the plans are developed to minimize the amount of fill to the extent possible, consistent
with good engineering practices. She stated that the remaining concern is the proposed
location of the driveway on the east side of the property. She acknowledged that
shifting the house further to the west provides more space for a swale and plantings but
noted that the swale may jeopardize some of the existing trees and vegetation. She
added that the swale will limit the new vegetation that can be planted. She stated staff
support for the project as detailed in the staff report subject to conditions of approval
including a requirement that the driveway to remain on the west side of the property.
In response to questions from Commissioner Travers, Mr. Pickell explained that the
relocation of the driveway has a strong design basis. He stated that the Surbers intend to
use the front yard and porch often and would like cars to be able to approach the front
porch. He talked about the layout of the house which maximizes natural light into key
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living spaces. He pointed out that by removing the existing house, and the long addition
to the rear of the house, the neighboring houses to the east gain open space. He stated
that the setback of the proposed house is a significant improvement. He stated that the
Surbers like the concept of approaching the house across the front lawn which is typical
of how sites are designed today.
In response to questions from Commissioner Athenson, Mr. Pickell confirmed that options
for retaining the driveway on the west side of the site were considered. He explained
that be locating the driveway on the east side of the property, hardscape is eliminated
from the back yard.
In response to comments from the Commission, Mr. Surber pointed out that the property
is unique because it has five adjacent properties. He stated that the concerns raised
focus on impacts to the two neighbors to the east, but not the other neighboring
properties. He confirmed that the existing detached garage, in the northwest corner of
the property, will be removed.
In response to questions form Commissioners Alfe and Preschlack, Ms. Czerniak stated
that staff did not receive any alternative site plans that retain the driveway on the west
side. She acknowledged that some alterations may be needed to the house to
accommodate a driveway on the west side. She stated that a shift in the location of the
curb cut to the east could impact neighbors and trees.
Commissioner Athenson suggested that consideration be given to further simplification of
the gambrel roof or removal of the swoop.
In response to a request from Chairman Pairitz, Mr. Pickell provided an overview on the
architectural style of the house. He stated that at the last meeting, the Commission
indicated general support for the style of the house, but requested simplification of
various elements. He stated that in his opinion, the swoop on the gambrel is a classic
detail. He stated that the gambrel style is desired by the Surbers. He pointed out that
the gambrel entry ties in well with the main roof.
In response to questions from Commissioner Athenson, Mr. Pickell explained that since
the last meeting, the height of the gambrel element was lowered and the board and
batten treatment in the gambrel was removed. He stated that consideration was given
to removing the swoop, but the owners decided to keep that element. He explained
that if the driveway is relocated back to the west side of the property, the house will
need to shift to the east, closer to the neighboring homes. He suggested that the
driveway on the east side provides openness for the neighboring properties.
Commissioner Athenson commended the historic assessment prepared by Ms.
Benjamin’s office.
In response to questions from Commissioner Athenson, Ms. Benjamin stated that the
information learned through the research about the people who lived in the house was
fascinating. She stated however that the house is difficult to understand and that
architecturally, it is not consistent. She noted that the later additions to the house are not
sympathetic to the original structure and in fact make it difficult to identify the elements
of the original structure.
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Commissioner Travers suggested the inclusion, if practical, of a facsimile of the memoir
and related art by Marian Phelps Douglas, be submitted as a historical record to the
City’s archives.
Hearing no further questions from the Commission, Chairman Pairitz invited public
comment.
Steve Cross, Cross Engineering, stated that he represents the three property owners to
the east. He stated that he reviewed the plans and concluded that the driveway should
remain on the west side of the property. He noted that the impact of headlights from
the driveway on the west side of the property is mitigated because the neighboring
house is not in line with the driveway and is well screened. He stated that by relocating
the driveway to the east side of the property, existing trees near the property line will be
impacted and activity near the east property line will increase with landscapers, plows
and other vehicles on the driveway. He stated that new trees will not provide adequate
screening. He reviewed the existing impervious surface and current drainage patterns.
He reviewed a section through the proposed swale and berm and commented that the
images provided are misleading. He stated that in his opinion, the swale will not be able
to accommodate the run off and stated that the swale is in conflict with both existing
trees and with some of the proposed trees. He stated that there is no guarantee that the
swale will work. He stated agreement with the staff recommendation that the driveway
should remain on the west side of the property.
In response to questions from Commissioner Preschlack, Mr. Cross provided a more
detailed description of the proposed swale and berm. He stated that the swale will not
work as intended if it is cut around existing and proposed trees. He stated that the
proposed berm is not very tall and commented that water drainage to the east could
be exacerbated.
Kathy Griffith, 50 E. Laurel Avenue, stated that she has no objection to the proposed
demolition or plans for the new house, but has real concerns about the impact of the
proposed driveway on her home and backyard. She stated that her yard is already very
damp and that she is concerned about water coming toward her house. She stated
that she has lost 11 ash trees on her property reducing the screening that previously
existed.
Hearing no more public testimony, Chairman Pairitz invited final questions and comments
from the Commission.
In response to questions from Chairman Pairitz, Ms. Czerniak acknowledged that moving
the driveway closer to the house as it crosses the yard may be possible, but she stated
that a plan with that configuration was not presented for consideration. She noted that
drainage and impacts on vegetation may still be concerns in the area where the
driveway extends along the east property line.
Chairman Pairitz noted that it is difficult for the Commission to approve the petition with
the condition as presented by staff without understanding how the driveway issue will be
resolved.
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Mr. Surber suggested that the Commission approve the demolition and the replacement
residence. He stated that he heard new information during the testimony from the
neighbor about water concerns. He stated that some re-working of the plans will be
necessary to move the driveway to the west side of the property.
Commissioner Athenson stated that locating the driveway on the east side of the site
presents a significant hardship to the neighboring properties. She stated that since this
plan involves demolition and new construction, modifications are possible. She
suggested that the petition be continued to allow alternative site plans to be explored.
Commissioner Swenson acknowledged that the impacts of the headlights on the
neighboring properties is an issue, but questioned why the issue cannot be addressed
with more vegetation, trees or fencing.
Commissioner Preschlack stated that he is trying to understand whether the location of
the driveway is causing concern because it is simply a change or whether the relocation
is a true hardship on the neighboring properties. He stated that the relocation of the
driveway to the east side of the lot creates an impact not just from headlights, but also
from increased activity and possible drainage impacts. He suggested that consideration
be given to a plan that retains the driveway on the west side of the property, but
reduces the amount of hardscape in the rear yard. He commended the work done to
modify the plan to simplify the house. He stated that he would like to see alternatives
explored to address the remaining issues.
Chairman Pairitz agreed that some refinement is needed and that further review may be
appropriate.
Commissioner Alfe agreed that relocating the driveway could necessitate some
significant changes to the plan. He noted that changes could raise concerns from the
neighbors on the west side. He stated support for the demolition and the overall design
of the house. He stated that it is appropriate to offer the petitioner the opportunity to
consider options.
Commissioner Swenson stated that she can support the project with the driveway on the
east side as proposed.
Commissioner Preschlack stated that he is confident that there is an option that locates
the driveway on the west side that could be approved.
Commissioner Wheeler agreed that there are alternatives and stated confidence that a
workable solution can be found.
Commissioners Athenson and Travers stated support for the recommendation in the staff
report and retaining the driveway on the west side of the property.
Commissioner Alfe stated he that he has difficulty supporting the petition requiring the
driveway on the west side of the site without seeing the site plan.
Ms. Czerniak offered that the Commission could appoint a subcommittee to review a
revised site plan with the driveway on the west side. She stated that the subcommittee
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could be authorized to approve the site plan if the overall project is consistent with the
materials presented to the Commission.
Commissioner Swenson stated that the rear yard should not be paved.
Chairman Pairitz explained to the petitioner that if the Commission approves the petition
and appoints a subcommittee, the change of the driveway from the east to the west
side could be approved without returning to the full Commission if the plan is acceptable
to the subcommittee.
Commissioner Travers made a motion to grant a Certificate of Appropriateness
approving the demolition of the existing residence and approving a new single family
residence generally consistent with the plans presented to the Commission with
modifications as detailed in the conditions of approval that follow. He noted that in
particular, the driveway must be relocated to the west side of the site. He stated that
the motion is based on the findings as presented in the staff report and incorporating the
comments and deliberations of the Commission and the testimony presented at the
public hearing as additional findings. He stated that the approval is subject to the
following conditions of approval.
1. The final site plan is subject to review by a subcommittee of the Historic Preservation
Commission as appointed by the Commission Chairman. The driveway shall remain on
the west side of the property and the site plan and buildings plans revised accordingly.
2. An Historic Assessment Report, complete with exterior photographs shall be submitted to
the City, and be subject to City approval, for the purpose of documenting the existing
house and its history for the City archives. A copy of the report shall also be provided to
the Historical Society.
3. Plans submitted for permit must reflect the project as approved by the Commission. Staff
is directed to confirm that the plans submitted for permit are in compliance with the
Commission’s discussion and direction prior to the issuance of a building permit and staff
shall confer with the Chairman as appropriate.
a. Reflect modifications necessary to accommodate the driveway remaining in
generally the existing location.
b. If any modifications are proposed, beyond those discussed and directed by the
Commission, plans detailing the areas of change must be submitted and will be
subject to review by staff, in consultation with the Chairman as appropriate, to
verify that the plans are consistent with the intent of the Commission and the
approvals granted.
5. Minimize the grade change on the site. To the extent possible, with only changes
necessary to accommodate proper drainage and good engineering practices, modify
the plan to maintain to the existing grades to minimize tree impacts on and off the site,
avoid changes in overland drainage patterns that could impact neighboring properties
and avoid accentuating the height of the garages.
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6. Tree Removal Plan, Tree Survey, and Tree Protection Plan – Prior to the issuance of a
building permit, the City’s Certified Arborist is directed to review these materials and
confirm the following:
a. Tree removal is limited to that necessary for construction and to trees in poor
condition elsewhere on the site.
b. Trees worthy of and able to be preserved are properly protected during
construction and if appropriate, treated pre and post construction to increase the
chance of survival.
c. Replacement tree inches are provided on site or through a payment in lieu of on-
site plantings if there is not sufficient space to meet the required replacement
plantings.
7. Landscape Plan – Prior to a framing inspection, a final landscape plan, drawn on the
approved grading plan, must be submitted for review and will be subject to approval by
the City’s Certified Arborist. The Arborist’s review of the plan shall include, but is not
limited to, the following:
a. The west and east property lines are adequately landscaped to provide screening
of the driveway, garage doors and the driveway apron.
b. The landscaped character of the streetscape is preserved.
c. Any increase in building height, as a result of the grade changes on the site,
particularly for the detached garage, is mitigated by landscape screening.
8. Prior to the issuance of a building permit, a materials staging and construction vehicle
parking plan must be submitted to the City for review and will be subject to City
approval. Given the large lot, all staging and parking shall occur on the site. No parking
of construction vehicles is permitted on public streets.
9. Prior to the issuance of any Certificate of Occupancy, the site must be planted
consistent with the approved final landscape plan. If, due to the time of year, planting is
not possible, a bond in the amount of 110% of materials and labor must be posted with
the City to assure that the plantings are completed within 30 days after the start of the
next planting season as determined by the City.
10. This project must abide by all of the terms, conditions, restrictions, and provisions of The
City of Lake Forest City Code, and all other applicable codes, ordinances, rules, and
regulations.
Commissioner Alfe seconded the motion and the Commission voted 7 to 0 approve the
petition.
7. Continued consideration of a request for renewal, extension and modifications to a
Certification of Appropriateness for property located at 595 Circle Lane. No variance is
requested.
Owner: Terry and Lori Rozdolsky
Representatives: John Krasnodebski, architect
Susan Benjamin, Preservation Consultant
Chairman Pairitz asked the Commission for any conflicts of interest or Ex Parte contacts,
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hearing none; he invited a presentation from the petitioner.
Mr. Krasnodebski introduced the project and the team noting that the Commission has
reviewed this project several times in the past, most recently two weeks ago. He
reviewed that the Lake access staircase and terraces are a key feature of the site and
explained that in order to restore those features, use of the coping from the Lily Pool is
proposed to achieve the best possible result. He showed photos of the property,
streetscape and the historic elements on the site. He pointed out that there is some
grade change from the street to the property and as a result, views of the Lily Pool from
the streetscape are limited. He reviewed the proposed replacement residence noting
that cues were taken from Howard Van Doren Shaw’s designs. He noted that at the last
meeting, the Commission raised some questions about the large window on the front
elevation. He provided references used for the window. He described the proposed
wrought iron railings and provided images of precedents for the use of wrought iron
noting that the petitioners like the lightness of wrought iron. He reviewed that removal of
the Lily Pond is now proposed to allow reuse of the coping on the Lake terraces. He
stated that any remaining coping will be used to create a water feature at the front of
the house. He reviewed the site plan noting that the underground garage and access
ramp were eliminated from the plan. He explained that with the removal of the Lily
Pond, the two wings of the house are able to be sited further apart providing a more
elegant courtyard. He stated that the plan complies with all requirements and no
variances are requested. He reviewed the previously approved elevations and the
elevations now proposed. He again noted the large window explaining that it provides
an asymmetrical balance to the house. He described the shutters stating the intention to
have bi-fold shutters with hardware on both sides and enough dimension to fully cover
the French door. He introduced Ms. Benjamin to speak to the historic aspects of the
property.
Ms. Benjamin stated that she wrote a report on this property some time ago. She stated
that this property presents difficult decisions. She stated that there are several historic
features on the property, all in disrepair. She stated that in her opinion, the water
cascade element is so significant, as part of the Lake terraces, that it should be
preserved. She stated that walking around the water cascade; it is fascinating to
understand the relationships and progression of space. She stated that this element is
unique and unlike the Lily Pond, not found on other properties. She noted that the
context of the Lily Pool has been lost. She explained that from historic photographs, it is
clear that the Lily Pool was part of the much larger landscape treatment of the original
estate. She stated that today, the Pool is isolated. She stated that the petitioners hired a
superb masonry restoration expert, Mario Machnicki, to restore the Lake Terraces and
water cascade element. She stated that using the coping from the Lily Pond will allow
the restoration to occur properly preserving the most unique features on the site. She
introduced Mr. Machnicki and his colleague, Donna Weiss.
Ms. Weiss explained that along with Mr. Machnicki, she has spent a great deal of time
studying the historic features on this site. She stated that the goal is to do the best
possible job of restoring those features. She said that there were excited to find coping
on the site that matches the color, texture and age of the coping on the terraces and
water cascade. She stated that they conserve elements all around the world so
harvesting materials from an historic element is not taken lightly. She explained that they
spent much time studying the original drawings including an original plan of the Lily Pool.
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She stated that in the context of the larger plan, the Lily Pool was connected to a
bowling green with an inner and outer walkway she stated that only the inner ring, which
encompasses the pond itself, exists today. She stated that much of the coping is in a
state of deterioration and the original fountains and marble basin are gone. She stated
that the only historic feature remaining on the Pool is the coping. She noted that the
brick pavers are part original, part replacement. She stated that in addition to using the
marble coping from the Pool on the terraces, the original brick pavers will be used on the
terraces as well. She showed photos of the original Pool and the Pool as it exists today.
Ms. Czerniak reviewed the follow up that occurred since the last meeting. She confirmed
that staff consulted the City Attorney and the Attorney confirmed that since the
materials from one of the garden elements are being adaptively reused to restore
another garden element on the site, de-designation is not necessary. She confirmed
that the materials previously submitted for this property as part of an earlier petition were
made available to the members of the Commission along with information on past
Commission actions with respect to this property. She reviewed that the request now
before the Commission is for extension and modification of the previously approved
Certificate of Appropriateness. She stated that the staff report offers findings in support
of the request. She commented that extraordinary due diligence has been completed
to date as part of this project. She stated that this may be the last opportunity to
preserve a significant historic element on this site.
Chairman Pairitz reviewed the Commission’s discussion at the last meeting noting that
the matter was continued to allow the newer Commissioners to become familiar with the
project and past Commission actions.
In response to questions from Commissioner Travers, Mr. Krasnodebski explained that a
significant portion of the marble coping from the pond, 40 to 50 percent, will be used to
recreate details on the Lake terraces. He stated that any leftover coping will be used to
create a new water feature at the front of the house. He stated that the brick pavers will
be reused on the brick terrace. He explained that efforts were made to find marble from
other sources, but a good match was not found. He stated that marble from other
sources was not compatible in color or texture. He stated that restoration without the
marble from the pond would be inferior to what can be achieved with the marble on
site.
In response to questions from Commissioner Travers, Ms. Weiss confirmed that the floor of
the Pool was marble based on the original drawings.
In response to questions from Commissioner Preschlack, Ms. Czerniak clarified that the
designation of the property identified the historic garden features as a whole.
Chairman Pairitz added that the original intent of the designation was to preserve the Lily
Pool but the Commission is now faced with an opportunity to restore and preserve one
element at the cost of another.
In response to questions from Commissioner Travers, Ms. Benjamin confirmed stated the
Lily Pool was awkwardly located on the lot when subdivision of the estate occurred. She
confirmed that she reviewed the materials presented by Mr. Miller. She stated that there
is a hierarchy of importance to the elements on the site. She stated that the relationship
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that exists between the remaining elements is very important and the Pool is an orphan.
Commissioner Athenson stated she was on the Commission when the earlier petition was
presented. She stated that at that time, the Lily Pool was impacting the owner’s ability to
construct the house they wanted. She stated that what is presented now, removal of the
Pool, is very different.
Mr. Rozdolsky, property owner, explained that after considerable thought, they realized
that the plan previously approved was a forced design, a plan that tried to please
everyone. He stated that the approved plan does not work. He noted that key windows
of the house were blocked due to the configuration of the house and the courtyard was
not appropriately sized. He stated that the design necessitated an underground garage
and the house was unlivable. He stated that separately, a restoration firm was hired to
conduct further due diligence to determine what was required to restore the Lake
Terraces. He explained that he learned a great deal about how important careful
restoration work is to a successful project. He stated that the Lily Pool is just a portion of
the original Pool and nothing like the terraces which are deteriorating, but intact. He
stated that previous work restoration on the garden elements was done improperly and
has accelerated the deterioration.
In response to questions from the Commission, Mr. Machnicki stated that garden features
such as those located on this property are built to last hundreds of years. He stated that
unfortunately, the previous efforts to repair the structures amounted to vandalism due to
improper materials and poor workmanship. He stated that with appropriate repairs and
proper materials, once restored, the Lake terraces should last hundreds of years with
relatively little maintenance. He stated that longevity of the structures is contingent on
using materials from the same quarry and veins like those that are available on site.
In response to questions from Commissioner Swenson, Mr. Krasnodebski noted the
precedent for louvered, rather than panel shutters. He explained that the quoins will be
similar in color to the brick and stated that the detailing is appropriate for the style of the
house. He stated that the brackets under the windows on the first floor can be added
back if desired. He reviewed the details of the columns at the front entry noting that the
two center columns are circular and the side columns, square. He reviewed the
precedent for the columns as proposed.
Hearing no further questions from the Commission, Chairman Pairitz invited public
comment.
Pauline Mohr, 927 Barclay Circle, pointed out that the reference used for the large
window was not part of the original estate house but instead, was installed as part of a
major renovation of the house in the 1980’s.
A resident of 75 Ashbury Court thanked the petitioner for his passion for the property and
the desire to complete the restoration properly. She questioned what was going to
happen with the chunks of concrete from the original pool now in the Lake. She agreed
that the Lily Pool in its current location is awkward and noted that the Lake terraces can
be seen by the public from the Lake.
Chairman Pairitz commented that based on the information presented by the
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petitioner’s team, some of the remnant materials in the Lake will be harvested, dried and
used in the restoration.
In response to a request from Commissioner Preschlack, Mr. Machnicki reviewed his
background and talked about some of the projects he has worked on around the world.
He stated that he changed preservation standards in North America.
Commissioner Travers commented that good has come from this review process and
stated his hope that more good will come from it. He stated that the review of this
petition has resulted in some greater clarity about the process and requirements. He
noted that this review process has clarified that renewals of Certificates of
Appropriateness are neither automatic, nor forbidden. He stated that as now presented,
the petition proposes the demolition of the pond that was based on the work of Charles
A. Platte whose work is significant. He stated that the reflecting pool is in good condition
noting that the concrete floor was re-poured, the coping is generally in good condition
and the bricks are in place. He stated that the primary basis for requesting removal
seems to be that the subdivision was not well laid out. He stated that the petitioner
believes that the best use of the reflecting pool is to salvage the materials for use
elsewhere on the site. He noted that City staff consulted with the City Attorney and
received the opinion that the Commission can approve demolition of the reflecting
pond without first considering a de-designation of the element. He noted that staff has
specifically evaluated the reflecting pool based on the demolition criteria. He stated
that from a process standpoint, those are all good things. He noted that neighbors have
been involved throughout this review process and several residents have written lengthy
correspondence speaking to the proposed removal of the pond. He quoted from
several letters. He stated that there is more than one layer of historic significance. He
stated that further evaluation of the 1909 elements would be informative to the process.
He stated that retention of the Lily Pool should be a condition of approval.
Commissioner Athenson stated appreciation for all the work done on the project. She
agreed that the Lake terrace is a fabulous feature but stated that unfortunately, not
many people see it. She stated that the owners knew that the Lily Pool was a
landmarked feature when they bought the property. She stated that she cannot support
demolition of the Pool because a landmark feature will be lost. She said that in her
opinion, demolition of the house should not be approved either. She stated that if the
Lily Pool is demolished, a larger house can be built. She stated that the project should be
approached differently. She stated that the demolition of the Lily Pond will be
detrimental to the public interest because it is visible from the public street. She pointed
out that in the future, the bowling green could be restored on the lot next door and the
loss of the Pond would then be regretted. She stated that the larger issue is that the
Pond is a landmarked feature and it is the Commission’s job to protect it. She stated
there is probably another way to restore the Lake terraces without the use of the coping
from the Lily Pool. She stated that she cannot support the project as proposed.
Commissioner Wheeler said that he visited the site and was impressed with the
uniqueness of the Lake terraces. He said that walking around the Lily Pool gave him the
sense of an abandoned element. He stated that the original house gave the Pool
meaning, however by itself; it is not a unique element. He stated that reuse of the
marble coping from the Pool to restore the other features on the site is reasonable.
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Commissioner Preschlack stated that preservation is a balancing act. He stated that this
property is not a museum. He acknowledged that the Lily Pool was called out in the
designation but stated that the Commission is faced with a decision to allow the proper
restoration of a very unique element, or require preservation of all of the elements and
not support the proposed restoration. He commented that it is disingenuous to say that if
someone supports what is proposed, they are against preservation. He stated that the
Commission’s role is to be flexible. He said that he comes down on the side of the
petitioner, in support of allowing the desired home to be built in the context of allowing
reuse of the materials as necessary to properly restore the unique elements.
Commissioner Alfe agreed with Commissioner Preschlack’s comments. He stated that he
is convinced that the proposed plan provides for the best possible restoration of the Lake
terraces. He acknowledged that is it unfortunate that a tradeoff needs to be made, but
stated that he would like to see the restoration of the terraces done in the best possible
manner.
Commissioner Swenson stated that the water terraces are incredible and in her opinion,
need to be saved. She stated preservation of the terraces outweighs preservation of the
Lily Pool.
Chairman Pairitz stated that it is the Commission’s job to consider all information
presented and all points of view. He acknowledged that it is each Commissioner’s
prerogative to evaluate the information in relation to the standards as they see fit. He
stated appreciation for Commissioner Travers’ thorough review of the Code provisions
and the required processes. He also applauded the efforts to salvage and restore the
more important features on the site. Hearing no further comments from the Commission,
he invited a motion.
Commissioner Preschlack made a motion to grant a Certificate of Appropriateness
based on the findings presented in the staff report and incorporating the comments and
deliberations of the Commission and the testimony presented at the public hearing as
additional findings. He stated that the motion approves a modified Certificate of
Appropriateness as follows.
1. Approval of the reuse of the Lily Pool coping for the Lake terraces and the
construction of a new fountain at the motor court subject to the condition that
photo documentation of the existing Lily Pond is submitted, in a form acceptable
to the City, prior to the issuance of a permit authorizing dismantling of the Pond.
2. Approval of the revised plans for the replacement residence.
3. Amendment of Condition 2 to require: 1) Submittal of a timeline for the restoration work
subject to review and approval by staff prior to the issuance of a permit for the
demolition of the existing house. The timeline shall be in the form of a signed agreement
acknowledging that the demolition permit and subsequent permits are issued based on
the representation that the restoration work will be completed in accordance with the
schedule. 2) If work is not completed in accordance with the completion date
specified in the approved timeline, the property owners shall post financial guarantees,
in addition to those ordinarily required as part of the issuance of a permit, to assure
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completion of the work and the open permits for the restoration work shall be recorded
as open permits on the property deed.
4. Amendment of Condition 4 to authorize a single restoration consulting firm deemed to
be qualified and acceptable to the City, to oversee the work and prepare progress and
quality assurance reports for submittal to the City. As provided for in the City Code, the
City reserves the right to bring in an independent consulting firm, at the expense of the
property owner, if deemed necessary to verify progress and quality.
5. Amend of Condition 9 to acknowledge that to accomplish the restoration work, some
activity will need to occur in the steep slope setback area and will be permitted only
with prior review and approval by the City Engineer.
Commissioner Wheeler seconded the motion and the Commission voted 5 to 2 to
approve the petition with Commissioners Athenson and Travers voting nay.
OTHER ITEMS
6. Opportunity for the public to address the Historic Preservation Commission on non-
agenda items.
There were no additional public comments presented to the Commission.
7. Additional information from staff.
There was no additional information presented by staff.
The meeting was adjourned at 11:10 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Catherine J. Czerniak
Director of Community Development