HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION 2015/09/23 Minutes
The City of Lake Forest
Historic Preservation Commission
Proceedings of the September 23, 2015 Meeting
A regular meeting of the Lake Forest Historic Preservation Commission was held on
Wednesday, September 23, 2015, at 6:30 p.m., at the City of Lake Forest City Hall, 220 E.
Deerpath, Lake Forest, Illinois.
Historic Preservation Commissioners present: Chairman Preschlack and Commissioners
Pete Schaefer, Wells Wheeler, John Travers, Susan Athenson, Robert Alfe, and Carol
Gayle.
Commissioners absent: None
City staff present: Kate McManus, Assistant Planner and Catherine Czerniak, Director of
Community Development
1. Introduction of Commissioners and staff, overview of meeting procedures.
Chairman Preschlack reviewed the meeting procedures followed by the Commission
and asked the members of the Commission to introduce themselves.
2. Consideration of the minutes of the August 26, 2015 of the Historic Preservation
Commission.
The minutes of the August 26, 2015 meeting were approved with a correction as
requested by Commissioner Schaefer.
3. Continued consideration of a request for a Certificate of Appropriateness for a new
single family residence on a vacant lot located at 810 Barberry Lane.
Owner: Elizabeth Hoffman Trust 100%
Representative: Erik Johnson, architect
Sam Danenberger, Mariani Landscape
Chairman Preschlack asked the Commission for any conflicts of interest or Ex
Parte contacts, hearing none; he invited a presentation from the petitioner.
Mr. Johnson stated that revisions were made in response to the concerns
expressed by the Commission and the public at the previous meeting. He noted
that the previously proposed 7 white masonry piers were eliminated and a
custom wrought iron fence is now proposed. He stated that the hedge was
lowered considerably to open up views into the lot and to appear less fortress-
like. He stated that a different white brick with more texture, a cream tone and a
less industrial feel is proposed. He stated that there were concerns that the side
elevations were not broken up enough. He stated that initially he added a brick
pattern to the wall expanse, but it appeared too subtle, so a false window was
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added to the side elevation. He noted that the window breaks up the elevation
and provides balance. He stated that the rear elevation has not changed and
brickwork was added to the chimney. He stated that the curved masonry walls
were retained but the hedge was lowered significantly.
Mr. Danenberger, landscaper, stated that the hedge in front of the iron fence
was lowered to a height of 2 to 3 feet. He noted that the section drawing shows
the distance from the street to the wall, and noted that the fence is set back 6 to
8 feet from the property line. He stated that additional screening at the rear of
the property was added in response to concerns from a neighbor.
Ms. McManus stated that the petition was before the Commission at last month’s
meeting and concerns were expressed regarding the proposed fencing and wall
along Barberry Lane, the selection of white brick, and the lack of articulation on
the side elevations. She noted that the petitioner has responded to these
comments and that staff is recommending approval of the revised petition. She
added that staff received 2 pieces of correspondence expressing continued
concerns about the adequacy of the proposed landscaping and the
inconsistency of the fencing with the character of the streetscape.
In response to questions from Commissioner Travers, Mr. Danenberger stated that
the perimeter fence along the side and rear lot lines will be less decorative than
the fence along the front of the property, on Barberry Lane, and will be buried in
vegetation. He added that the type of fence along the perimeter has not been
fully fleshed out yet, but will likely be a black iron picket type of fence. He stated
that the landscaping around the perimeter has not changed significantly since
the last meeting other than some additional screening was added at the rear of
the lot.
In response to questions from Chairman Preschlack, Mr. Johnson stated that he
met with the owners after the last meeting and they were receptive to making
changes in response to the comments provided. He agreed that the tall hedge
between numerous masonry piers was too opaque for the streetscape and
stated that lowering the hedge and removing the piers is less fortress-like. He
stated that the vertical elements of the fence would be spaced approximately 6
inches apart and the front yard would be visible from the street.
In response to questions from Commissioner Athenson, Mr. Johnson stated that
the new brick will look more white washed and have more texture than the
previous proposal. He noted that the bricks now proposed have a chalky feel
and less sheen than the bricks previously proposed. He added that the brick will
appear much softer.
In response to questions from Chairman Preschlack, Mr. Danenberger clarified
that the height of the hedge as originally proposed was 7 feet. He stated that
now, a 3 foot hedge is proposed along with a 5 foot fence and 6 foot pillars.
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In response to a comment from Commissioner Athenson, Mr. Johnson stated that
the owners are very fond of the curved masonry walls and do not believe that
they will appear fortress like. He added that they will create a soft embracing
quality at the entrance to the site. He added that soft ground plantings and taller
vegetation are proposed on both sides of the fence to soften the appearance of
the walls.
In response to a question from Commissioner Athenson, Mr. Johnson stated that
he considered adding a round window to the side elevation, but it appeared
odd and almost looked like a face.
In response to questions from Commissioner Wheel er, Mr. Danenberger stated
that the street entry wall cap is limestone and the width of the gate is 12 feet.
In response to questions from Commissioner Wheeler, Mr. Johnson stated that
there is no parapet wall on the gambrel roof. He explained that the sheet metal
roof goes over the edge and that he intends to work with the roofing contractor
to achieve a drip edge.
Commissioner Gayle commended the owners for rethinking the white brick and
noted that lowering the hedge and adding the wrought iron is an improvement.
She expressed concern regarding the curved wall and suggested continuing the
wrought iron fence in place of the wall .
Hearing no further questions from the Commission, Chairman Preschlack invited
public comment.
Michael Burke, 780 Barberry Lane, stated that his home is to the west of the
property and is oriented with the main living space facing the vacant lot. He
added that there are large pine trees on the west side of the lot and requested
additional screening to provide privacy to his house. He stated that he is
concerned with adding an additional window to the west elevation. He stated
that there is a maple tree on the property line and requested that the
landscaping plan and screening take into account the size of the maple and the
screening that it provides. He also requested that the white brick be
reconsidered.
Warren Harshbarger, 1150 Lake Road, stated that he was present at the last
meeting and expressed concern about the lack of screening at the north
property line. He stated that the landscape plan appears to be exactly the same
as previously proposed noting that his main living space is at the south side of his
property and will be impacted by lights from the new home. He stressed that
more evergreens should be planted to provide additional screening.
Art Miller, 169 Wildwood Road, stated that there is precedent for forested
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landscaping at the front of properties. He added that the lot is difficult because it
is the last vacant lot on the street and acknowledged that it is challenging to
please all neighbors. He stated that French architecture uses natural forms and
colors and compatibility with the streetscape is important.
In response to public testimony, Mr. Danenberger stated that existing high quality
trees along the perimeters will be retained and the landscaping will look wooded
with a balance of evergreens on the west side. He added that landscaping will
be native and natural looking and that the new owners desire privacy as well. He
stated that the landscaping will be sensitive to both sides of the property and
pointed out that 7 additional evergreens were added to the northeast corner of
the lot. He stated that additional screening can be added, but noted the
importance of being sensitive to the existing trees.
Hearing no further comments, Chairman Preschlack invited final comments from
the Commission.
Commissioner Athenson stated appreciation for the changes made and pointed
out that the additional window on the west wall is false and will not be lit. She
stated that the modified white brick is an improvement over the brick previously
proposed, but noted that she still has concerns with the compatibility of the
fencing. She requested that the white curved walls be reconsidered and
suggested removing the fence from the front of the property all together.
Chairman Preschlack noted that neighbors seem less concerned with the fence
and more concerned about adequate landscaping and brick selection. He
acknowledged one additional resident who requested the opportunity to testify.
John Doheny, 815 Barberry Lane, stated that he is respectful of the design of the
home but stated that his preference would be to not have a fence along the
street. He stated that his main concern is the 6 foot curved walls and the lack of
screening of the garages noting that those buildings come forward on the
property. He requested more screening of the garages to conceal headlights. He
added that the brick selection is a vast improvement over the brick that was
originally proposed.
Ms. Czerniak suggested that, based on the comments heard, the Commission
could consider taking action on the house and request that the landscape plan,
walls and fence be modified based on the comments from the Commission and
neighbors and that revised plans be presented to the Commission for approval at
a later date.
In response to a question from Commissioner Schaefer, Mr. Johnson stated that
the window on the west elevation was added in response to comments from the
Commission and will likely be a false window, so there will be no lighting impacts.
Chairman Preschlack stated that he is in favor of approving the home and
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requested that the landscape plan be further developed before the Commission
takes action on that aspect of the plan.
Commissioner Travers stated that taking into account the concerns expressed
about the landscaping, he also would like the landscaping plan to come back to
the Commission.
Mr. Johnson suggested that one option is to reduce the height of the wall and
add iron fencing to the top to achieve the height and privacy desired by his
clients.
Commissioner Wheeler noted that the Commission did not have concerns with a
curved brick wall as part of a previous petition on Green Bay Road. He stated
support for the project overall but noted that he would prefer more transparency
in the landscaping and fencing.
Hearing no further comments from the Commission, Chairman Preschlack invited
a motion.
Commissioner Travers made a motion to grant a Certificate of Appropriateness
approving a new single family residence on a vacant lot based on the findings
detailed in the staff report and incorporating the testimony and the Commission’s
deliberations as additional findings. He noted that the approval is subject to the
following conditions.
1. Plans for fencing, walls and landscaping shall be adjusted based on the
comments by the Commission and the public and shall return to the Commission
at a later date for review and approval.
The revised landscape plan shall include the following:
a. Trees worthy of and able to be preserved, as identified by the City’s Certified
Arborist, are properly protected during construction and if appropriate,
treated pre and post construction to increase the chances of survival. If
needed, trees shall be relocated on the site.
b. Adequate screening along the perimeters of the property along the west,
north and east property lines.
c. Replacement tree inches are properly calculated and that the required
replacement inches are planted on site or, if replacement plantings cannot
be accomplished on the site consistent with good forestry practices as
determined by the City Arborist, payment in lieu of onsite plantings may be
accepted by the City to support parkway plantings in the general vicinity of
the project.
Consideration shall be given to creating a more transparent streetscape
appearance in keeping with the overall character of Barberry Lane.
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2. If any modifications are made to the plans presented to the Commission either in
response to Commission direction, or as the result of final design development,
the modifications shall be clearly called out on the plan and a copy of the plan
originally provided to the Commission shall be attached for comparison
purposes. Staff is directed to review any changes, in consultation with the
Chairman as appropriate, to determine whether the modifications are in
conformance with the Commission’s direction and approval prior to the issuance
of any permits.
3. The final grading and drainage plan shall demonstrate that any grading and
filling on the property is kept to the minimum necessary to achieve proper
drainage and that the overall height of the residence is consistent with the
information presented to the Commission with respect to the height of the
residence. Additional information, as determined necessary by the City
Engineer, may be required to verify the project is consistent with Code
requirements and to verify good engineering practices are followed to minimize
the potential for negative impacts on adjacent properties.
4. A final lighting plan, including specifications on all exterior fixtures proposed, shall
be submitted in full compliance with the City Lighting Guidelines. The dark sky,
right to night approach shall be complied with and sources of light shall be
shielded. Interior lighting, below the proposed skylights, shall be limited, shielded
and directed downward, away from the skylight to prevent spillover light that is
visible from off of the property.
5. A plan for construction parking and materials’ staging shall be submitted for
review and will be subject to approval by the City’s Certified Arborist, City
Engineer and Director of Community Development. Parking on Barberry Lane
shall be limited to no more than two vehicles directly in front of the property to
minimize impacts to the surrounding homes and congestion on the narrow
streets in the area.
6. This project must abide by all of the terms, conditions, restrictions, and provisions
of The City of Lake Forest City Code and all other applicable codes, ordinances,
rules and regulations.
Commissioner Athenson seconded the motion and the Commission voted 7 to 0
to approve the petition for the new single family residence and to continue
consideration of the landscaping, fences, walls and pillars.
4. Consideration of a report on the Lake Woodbine Bridge. The Commission is
asked to make a recommendation on whether work should proceed in the
direction of replacing the bridge or if further due diligence should be
undertaken to explore the feasibility and cost of restoring and rehabilitating
the existing bridge.
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Owner: The City of Lake Forest
Representatives: Robert Ells, Superintendent of Engineering, City of Lake Forest
David Shannon, P.E., Lochner
Colleen Malone, P.E., Lochner
Chairman Preschlack asked the Commission for any conflicts of interest or Ex
Parte contacts. He disclosed that he heard from 2 residents who have concerns
about the bridge, but did not discuss any specifics of the project. Hearing no
additional conflicts or Ex Parte conflicts, he invited a presentation from the
petitioner.
Mr. Shannon stated that the Woodbine Bridge was built in 1912 and repaired in
1978 with a new railing and spandrel walls. He added that the State Historic
Preservation Office was contacted and stated that a replacement bridge, in
keeping with the character of the historic district could be considered. He stated
that an examination of the bridge was completed to assess the condition of the
bridge. He noted that the replacement railings, from the 1978 repairs, are not
structural and it is unknown if they are similar to the original railing design. He
added that the railings do not meet current safety standards, but could be
repaired. He stated that the bridge deck and sidewalk are narrow and that a
replacement bridge would be required to have a wider deck. He noted that the
spandrel walls were replaced in 1978 and are in good condition. He stated that
the arch barrel design is original and is showings signs of distress. He also noted
that efflorescence and map cracking are causing the concrete to deteriorate.
He stated that the original plans for the bridge have not been located. He stated
that the piers and abutments are deteriorating. He stated that repair would
require the deck and spandrel walls to be removed, and would result in
essentially replacing the bridge at that point. He concluded that replacement,
rather than repair of the bridge, is recommended. He added that the life of any
repairs would be limited.
Ms. Czerniak stated that this project was introduced to the Commission in
November. She stated that the Commission expressed concern that the project
was moving too quickly and requested more information on the existing bridge
and the potential for restoration. She stated that in response, the City’s consultant
evaluated 3 approaches; a no build approach, repair and restoration, and
replacement of the bridge. She explained that at this time, the City Council
asked the Commission to consider the information available and forward a
recommendation on how the project should be approached. She stated that
the Council will consider the Commission’s recommendation and make a final
decision on how to proceed. She stated that the City’s consultant recommends
replacement of the bridge. She stated that if the Council decides to proceed
with replacement of the bridge, design development will begin and the
proposed design will be presented to the Commission for evaluation and public
comment. She noted that a replacement bridge can be design in a manner that
is sensitive to the character of the streetscape, ravine and the Historic District. She
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suggested that a public forum could be held during the design development
process to get public input early in the design process.
In response to a question from Chairman Preschlack, Ms. Czerniak confirmed that
the demolition criteria should be considered, particularly with respect to the
integrity of the bridge. She noted that if the project proceeds as a demolition
and replacement, the Commission would ultimately be asked to take final action
on the project and findings would be prepared and presented to the Commission
at that time.
In response to questions from Chairman Preschlack, Mr. Shannon stated that the
bridge is already showing signs of deterioration and the map cracking is a major
concern. He added that the condition of the interior of the bridge is unknown
and would require extensive investigation and corings which themselves would
impact the bridge.
In response to questions from Chairman Preschlack, Ms. Malone stated that if is
difficult to project a specific remaining life span of the bridge. She stated that
when concrete deteriorates, it changes how it carries weight. She added that
water damage is evident and accelerates the rate of deterioration. She stated
that failure of the bridge is not eminent, but could occur in the next 10 years. She
added that officials at both the State and Federal level believe it is time to
address the bridge’s condition and are willing to provide funding to support the
project.
In response to a question from Commissioner Travers, Ms. Malone confirmed that
it is possible to do nothing at this point, but the condition of the bridge will need
to be addressed in the near future.
In response to questions from Chairman Preschlack, Ms. Malone stated that the
arch barrels are essentially the structure and the extent of deterioration in the
arch barrels is wide spread. She added that there is likely no part of the barrel
that is salvageable and repair will essentially be a replacement. She noted that to
repair the bridge, further tests would be required including boring and probes of
the foundation. She estimated that the scope of the testing would be 3-6
months. She stated that she does not have information on the cost of the testing.
In response to questions from Commissioner Travers, Ms. Czerniak confirmed that
the City owns the bridge. She stated that to conduct proper studies, the City
hired a consultant and the consultant recommends replacement of the bridge.
Chairman Preschlack stated that this project differs from how a demolition of a
residence is handled and is more similar to Forest Park and other unique projects.
He added that the review process is not a one size fits all . He noted that the
public has been and will be involved in the project. He stated that he is
comfortable with the review process as it has been crafted noting that the City
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Council has requested a recommendation from the Commission, early in the
process, to help the Council determine how the bridge should be approached.
In response to a question from Commissioner Athenson, Ms. Malone stated that
because the bridge is not very long, there are many engineering opportunities to
design the replacement bridge to be sensitive to and improve the health of the
ravine.
In response to questions from Commissioner Athenson, Mr. Shannon added that a
clear span bridge will allow the pier to be removed from the ravine and more
sunlight to support vegetation under the bridge. He stated that rubble from the
1978 repair was left in the ravine and will be removed. He stated that the new
bridge will need to be about 3 to 4 feet wider to meet current regulations and to
match the roadway width. He noted that the existing railings do not meet current
regulations due to the spacing of the element.
Ms. Malone added that the existing bridge extends beyond the ravine and the
length of the bridge could be shortened if desired.
In response to questions from Commissioner Wheeler, Mr. Shannon confirmed that
the current bridge does not meet applicable standards and he confirmed that
there are some utilities below the bridge. He stated that the presence of utilities
does not present any concerns. He acknowledged that the life of the bridge
could be extended by further limiting the weight limits on the bridge.
Ms. Malone emphasized that the deterioration found in the bridge is so wide
spread that efforts to repair the bridge would essentially result in replacement of
the bridge.
In response to a question from Commissioner Schaefer, Mr. Ells confirmed that
there has not been a recent review of the utility lines under the bridge, but noted
that there are no known concerns. Hearing no further questions from the
Commission, Chairman Preschlack invited public comment.
John Dick stated that he lives next to the bridge and requested clarification on
the width of the replacement bridge compared to the roadway.
In response to public testimony, Mr. Shannon clarified that the edge of pavement
width would match the roadway width. He noted that as measured, the bridge is
18 feet wide and the road is 21 feet wide. He noted that the current sidewalk is 4
feet wide and would need to be 5 feet wide to meet current requirements. He
added that when design options explored, specifics on the options for the width
of the bridge will be presented.
Chairman Preschlack commented that his preference is that the width of the
bridge remains the same. He added that the dimensions of any proposed
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replacement bridge and a comparison to the dimensions of the existing bridge
should be clearly detailed when plans are presented to the Commission.
Ted Roberts, 1020 Lake Road, stated that the bridge is functionally obsolete and
too narrow for cross traffic. He added that the structure is decrepit and is an
eyesore and the sidewalk is not a normal width. He commented that repair would
be a waste of money and the report makes it clear that the condition of the
bridge is poor. He added that replacement will be an inconvenience, but there
are plenty of alternate roads. He concluded stating that the design of the
replacement bridge should meet the high standards of Lake Forest.
Art Miller, 169 Wildwood Road, suggested that City develop a consistent
approach for addressing bridges throughout the City. He stated that the
replacement bridge should replicate the original design to the extent possible
noting that the design of the top of the bridge is most important. He noted that
the railings should replicate the original and the concrete mix should look similar
to the existing concrete . He stated that the width should be consistent with the
road and suggested using masonry like other bridges in area. He also suggested
considering separating pedestrian and vehicular lanes and cautioned that the
design should not appear fake looking.
Roger Christoph, 885 Woodbine Lane, commended the Commission for taking
the time to consider the replacement and stated that he thinks the existing
bridge is charming and adds character to the neighborhood. He expressed
concern that the new bridge will look like the Mayflower Road Bridge and stated
that the replacement bridge should be very similar to the existing bridge in
appearance.
Captain Jim Lovell, 964 Lake Road, stated that he is comfortable with replacing
the bridge, but asked that the ambience and character of the existing bridge be
retained. He stated that replacement should occur only if the existing bridge
cannot be repaired and the replacement bridge should be appropriate for the
City and neighborhood.
Hearing no further comments, Chairman Preschlack invited final comments from
the Commission.
Commissioner Travers stated that without a historic assessment of the bridge, it is
difficult to make a recommendation on the question of demolition.
Chairman Preschlack stated that this is an unusual project in that the Commission
is being asked not to take final action on a petition, but instead to make a
recommendation on the approach that should be taken with respect to moving
forward with the bridge project. He noted that a formal petition on this matter
will come back to the Commission for action once the City Council provides
direction on which approach should be followed. He stated that the required
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reports, analysis and plans will be presented before the Commission is asked to
take formal action.
Commissioner Travers reviewed and commented on the demolition criteria. He
noted that criterion 1 is met because a large portion of the bridge was replaced
in 1978. He stated that criterion 2 is met bridge because although the bridge is
contributing to the district, the replacement bridge will in part mitigate the
demolition and contribute to the character of the district. He stated that criterion
3 is met because demolition would not be contrary to the historic preservation
chapter and the replacement bridge will preserve the historic character of the
district. He noted that criterion 4 is met because most of the bridge is constructed
of concrete from 1978 and the replacement structure will be more or less in kind.
He stated that criterion 5 is not applicable and concluded that based on the
information available at this time, demolition of the bridge appears to sufficiently
meet the applicable criteria. He added that if further information on the
significance of the existing bridge is discovered, the Commission may reconsider
the criteria.
Chairman Preschlack stated that in his opinion, the “no build” option is not
feasible. He noted that as proposed, the development of a design for a
replacement bridge will provide opportunities for public input. He noted that in his
opinion, it is not realistic to recommend further testing and investigation of the
existing bridge. He stated confidence that the design development and public
review process will allow both function and aesthetic concerns to be addressed.
He stated that he is comfortable with replacement as long as the design of the
replacement bridge is sensitive to context of the neighborhood.
Commissioner Athenson stated that in her opinion, replacement of the bridge is
the only option noting that safety is a priority. She also noted that a replacement
bridge will provide the opportunity to restore the ravine. She added that the
railings on the replacement bridge should be similar in character to the historic
railings.
Commissioner Gayle stated that the report was very helpful and that in her
opinion, repair or replacement are the only options to consider. She added that
replacement is most appropriate approach, noting that repair would only solve
the problem for a limited time.
Commissioner Schaefer stated that ultimately replacement of the bridge is
needed, but noted that based on the information provided, the existing bridge
could last an additional 10 years. He stated that he does not feel comfortable
recommending replacement of the bridge at this point without having the
opportunity to review financial information comparing the costs of repairs and
replacement. He added that City Council has various financial pressures and
stated that based on the information available, he cannot support a
recommendation to replace the bridge.
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In response to comments from Commissioner Schaefer, Chairman Preschlack
clarified the role of the Historic Preservation Commission noting that economics of
a project is not under the purview of the Commission. He noted that the
Commission’s role is to ensure that the historic character and integrity of the City
are retained and the applicable criteria met.
Ms. Czerniak stated that the City Council will consider the economics and timing
of the project in the context of the overall City budget. She noted that this
project is identified in the City’s Capital Improvement Program which is approved
annually by the Council. She added that there is an opportunity to obtain grant
funding for the replacement bridge. She emphasized that the Commission is
recommending an approach to the City Council.
Chairman Preschlack stated that the timing of replacing the bridge is not up to
the Commission.
Commissioner Wheeler noted that the existing bridge fits well into the landscape
and it will be important that the replacement bridge does the same.
Commissioner Travers asked that the testimony of the neighbors be included in
the minutes and a copy provided to the City Council.
Commissioner Alfe stated that he is supportive of replacing the bridge.
Commissioner Wheeler noted that it is clear from public testimony that residents
want a functional bridge that is appropriately designed for the neighborhood.
Hearing no further comments, Chairman Preschlack invited a motion.
Commissioner Travers made a motion to recommend replacement of the bridge
to the City Council based on the information presented to the Commission,
public testimony, the deliberations of the Commission and the expectation that a
replacement bridge will be sensitively and appropriately designed and that
adequate opportunities for public input be provided during the design
development process.
Commissioner Wheeler seconded the motion and the Commission voted 6 to 1 to
approve the motion with Commissioner Schaefer voting nay.
OTHER ITEMS
5. Opportunity for the public to address the Historic Preservation Commission on non-
agenda items.
There were no additional public comments.
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6. Additional information from staff.
The meeting was adjourned at 8:50 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Kate McManus
Assistant Planner