PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE 2014/10/22 MinutesPUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE MEETING
WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 22, 2014 – 6:00 P.M.
MUNICIPAL SERVICES BUILDING – 800 N. FIELD DRIVE
MS TRAINING ROOM
MEETING MINUTES
I. ROLL CALL/CALL TO ORDER: Chairman Cathy Waldeck called the meeting order
at 6:15 p.m. Alderman Moreno was present.
City staff in attendance included Robert Ells, Superintendent of Engineering;
Brian Joyce, Engineering Supervisor; Dan Martin, Superintendent of Public Works;
Robert Kiely, City Manager; Michael Thomas, Director of Public Works; Charlie
Douglas, Assistant Chief Water Plant Operator; John Gulledge, Chief Water Plant
Operator; and Donna Dunn, Assistant to the Director of Public Works.
Other attendees included Mark Phipps, Baxter & Woodman; Brian Hackman,
Strand Associates; and members of the public, Charlie Kohlmeyer and Walter
Hamann.
II. APPROVAL OF THE SEPTEMBER 10, 2014 PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE MEETING
MINUTES: Alderman Moreno moved to approve the minutes of the
September 10, 2014 Public Works Committee Meeting as written. Chairman
Waldeck seconded the motion, which carried unanimously.
III. COMMUNITY RATING SYSTEM: This item was listed as Agenda Item IV, but
discussed as Item III during the meeting. Superintendent Robert Ells introduced
Engineering Supervisor Brian Joyce. The Committee viewed a FEMA video, which
summarized the community rating system. Supervisor Joyce explained that
communities within the voluntary program receive discounted flood insurance
premiums. Based on the credit points earned, The City of Lake Forest receives a
Class 7 discount, which varies between the 100-year flood zone and the 500-year
flood zone.
The Committee asked how many residents fall into each of the 100- and 500-
year flood zone categories. Supervisor Joyce replied that there are
approximately 70 structures, including homes and garages, within the 100-year
flood zone. As of now, only 19 of those have flood insurance policies.
The Committee questioned if there is a way to better the rating even further.
Supervisor Joyce explained that staff can go through the process again. As of
now, the points the City has been awarded will not increase if the process is
completed again. The next step is to update the building codes, which will earn
more points during a future review.
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The Committee inquired about how homeowners are informed about flood
zones. Supervisor Joyce replied that part of the real estate agent’s responsibility
to the potential buyer is relaying information about flood zones.
The Committee discussed how this flood insurance premium reduction will be
communicated to members of the community. Supervisor Joyce noted that any
communication with the community will result in additional points, and therefore
further discounted rates, during future program reviews. Educating the
community, residents within flood zones, and real estate agents will be part of
the communication for this new program. Additionally, an article was published
in the Dialogue and there will be flyers available at the upcoming Town Hall
Meeting.
No action was required.
IV. STORM WATER STUDY: This item was listed as Agenda Item III, but was discussed as
Item IV during the meeting. Director of Public Works Michael Thomas introduced
Mark Phipps from Baxter & Woodman, and provided a brief overview of the
history of the stormwater drainage study.
Mr. Phipps explained to the Committee that he utilized City GIS data to build a
storm sewer model of the entire City, including pipes 15” and larger, as well as
supplemental data provided by City staff. Flooding reports from two substantial
storms were used to calibrate the model. From this, ten (10) areas for more
detailed study were identified, and recommended improvements were then
prioritized. Mr. Phipps noted that flooding can always occur as a result of
substantial storms, but infrastructure can reduce the potential for flooding. The
model he used for the analysis was based on a 10-year storm.
Mr. Phipps reviewed the recommendations with the Committee.
1. Arbor and Windridge – This project has already been completed. It was
the easiest to address of the recommended improvements. The storm
sewers have sufficient capacity, but they found that the drainage
structures have restrictors which reduced the flow of water into the storm
sewer system. The restrictors have since been removed, which reduces
the flood depths by as much as 17“. Superintendent Ells noted that the
restrictors were not meant to act as restrictors, but instead were
something commonly installed 30 – 40 years ago to prevent debris from
getting into the pipes. Staff sees no issue with those being removed.
2. West Fork and Hackberry – The proposed improvements for West Fork and
Hackberry can be broken into three separate projects: Bowling Green,
Farm and Wilson, and West Fork. The work would reduce flood depths as
much as 23”.
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3. Telegraph and White Oak – This location can also be broken into two
separate projects, one on Telegraph and the remainder of the work on
Wild Rose and White Oak. Mr. Phipps explained that there is no storm
sewer on one side of Telegraph Road. The ditch would be filled in and
replaced with a storm sewer. For the second project on Wild Rose, he
explained that the bottleneck in the system actually occurs in a different
location than where the flooding occurs. Increasing the size or quantity of
the inlets will help address the flooding that occurs in this area. The
Committee asked about other ditches and swales within Lake Forest. Mr.
Phipps explained that ditches are a good option when safety is not a
concern. These projects would reduce flood depths by as much as 8”.
4. West Westminster – Again, this area would be divided into two projects.
The west end of Westminster would be one project, and the east end
another. Mr. Phipps explained that increasing the inlet is easier than
installing a new storm sewer. These projects would reduce flood depths
by as much as 8”.
5. Green Bay and Old Elm – Mr. Phipps noted that the bottleneck in the
system is in a different location than flooding occurs. An increase in size of
the storm sewer pipe is recommended on Old Elm between Timber and
Green Bay, and will reduce flood depths as much as 8”.
6. Burr Oak – This area’s improvements would consist of two projects, one
east of Western Avenue and one west of Western Avenue. One of the
goals of the proposed improvements is that the recommendation won’t
move water from one problem area and to another. These projects
would reduce flood depths as much as 7”.
7. Hunter and Saddle – Mr. Phipps noted that improvements at this location
would be handled in two phases. Saddle and Hunter would be one
project and Bridle would be a separate project. Improvements involve
increasing the size of the culvert under the railroad tracks and ditch
grading. The flood depths would be reduced as much as 13”.
8. Western and Onwentsia – There is one proposed storm sewer project for
this area that would reduce flood depths as much as 8”.
9. King Muir – The proposed project for King Muir would increase size of storm
sewers in order to get the stormwater to a detention pond, reducing flood
depths as much as 10”.
10. Ahwahnee and North Ridge – Mr. Phipps noted that this project is the most
expensive of all the study areas, and is further down on the priority list. The
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proposed improvements by IDOT at Route 41 and Deerpath were taken
into consideration in a second model. While the IDOT improvements
resolve localized problems, other changes would have to be made. This
area would consist of three projects (the northeast, east, and west),
reducing flood depths as much as 18”.
Mr. Phipps reviewed the prioritized list of storm sewer improvements. Multiple
projects for each area were listed and prioritized separately. The cost of the
project was taken into consideration in prioritizing the list of proposed
improvements. Additionally, a weighted prioritization was used with the highest
priority given to structure (home) flooding, second was for street flooding, and
the lowest to yard flooding. Other factors that were considered included
resident concerns and other infrastructure projects scheduled in the area. An
example of this method was Bowling Green. Reconstruction of Bowling Green
was already scheduled so the priority of the stormwater improvements was
moved up to avoid redoing road construction work in the future. There were
areas in which residents are impacted every time it rains, raising the priority of the
proposed work. City Manager Robert Kiely noted that staff’s policy has been to
prioritize projects based on structure (home) flooding first, followed by street
flooding, and then yard flooding. The Committee agreed that these priorities
should remain as they have been in the past.
Director Thomas noted that Council members will see these projects during the
November 5 Budget Meeting, as all of these projects (one per year) have been
added to the Capital Plan. Chairman Waldeck asked if all stormwater issues will
be addressed upon completion of prioritized list. Superintendent Ells explained
that there is the potential for additional isolated problem areas in the future after
these focus areas are addressed.
No was action required.
V. REQUEST TO PURCHASE THREE (3) SIDEWALK SNOW BLOWERS: Director Thomas
discussed the sidewalk snow plowing survey that was released to residents in
February 2014. The 30-day survey resulted in 765 responses, which he reviewed
with the Committee. Survey results were initially reviewed by the Committee last
spring, and as a result, the Committee recommended that sidewalks within ¼-
mile of schools and sidewalks along main roads be cleared with a snow blower.
The remaining sidewalks will continue to be plowed as they have been. This
recommendation will result in 55% of sidewalks being blown and 45% being
plowed. Director Thomas displayed a map of the areas that will be cleared with
blowers placed on Toolcats®.
Director Thomas requested approval from the Public Works Committee to
purchase three (3) blowers for the Toolcats in the amount of $17,178. The
Committee asked if these blowers are new or if staff has considered purchasing
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used/reconditioned units. Director Thomas explained that these are new units
that are attachments for existing pieces of equipment. The Committee asked if
the blowers will make a significant difference in terms of quality. Director Thomas
replied that the v-plows that have been used for sidewalk plowing has a specific
height; therefore, when the snow piles on each side of the walkway get to the
point where they are too high, the snow falls behind the sidewalk plow. With the
blower, the snow can be blown at a greater distance to one side or the other,
which will improve quality significantly. It should also reduce the number of
people walking in the street.
The Committee asked if there is a discount for purchasing multiple blowers at
once. Director Thomas was uncertain and will follow-up with the vendor. The
Committee asked if the blowers can be received in separate months. He replied
that they cannot because then they will not be able to use them for the sidewalk
clearing program if they were received throughout the winter.
Director Thomas added that if approved, staff would like to present the topic of
sidewalk snow blowing to the residents at an upcoming Town Hall meeting and
via the “Dialogue!”. He said he would like the residents to know that the City
issued a survey, listened to the results, and via the snow blowers, is attempting to
resolve the common complaint regarding quality of the City sidewalks during the
winter months.
The Committee asked about the lifespan of the blowers. Director Thomas replied
that they should last approximately 8 – 10 years. He also confirmed that there is
a warranty with each blower.
Chairman Waldeck motioned to approve the purchase of three blowers from
Bobcat in the amount of $17,178. Alderman Moreno seconded the motion,
which carried unanimously.
VI. WATER TREATMENT PLANT MASTER PLAN UPDATE: Brian Hackman from Strand
Associates provided the Committee with a status update on the master plan.
Since the last meeting, Strand Associates received and evaluated two proposals
from AquaSource, requested clarifications and updates from the other
membrane system integrators, developed and evaluated probable costs
associated with the membrane system and Water Plant needs, and identified
monetary and non-monetary cost impacts.
The Committee asked if one of the proposals from AquaSource was a “no cost”
option to the City. Mr. Hackman said there was not a “no-cost” proposal; the
base proposal from AquaSource was $2.6 million. Chairman Waldeck stated
that the letter from AquaSource notifying the City that they would no longer
produce the modules we use at the Plant stated that they would retrofit the
Plant at no additional cost to the City. Therefore, there should be a proposal by
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AquaSource that provides a solution at no extra cost to the City. Prior to
receiving the letter in May from AquaSource, the City was not considering
retrofitting the Plant to achieve 14MGD. The Committee would like clarification
on the options from AquaSource, to include retrofitting the Plant at its current
MGD capability with the replacement modules at no cost.
Mr. Hackman reviewed the potential to reuse existing equipment where
appropriate with the four remaining manufacturers. Pre-filters, membrane skids,
first floor expansion, membrane controls, backwash pumps and tanks, clean-in
place process, ancillary equipment, and raw water pumps were all evaluated
for possible reuse of existing equipment.
After reviewing and evaluating the proposals from the four manufacturers, the
average total probable cost of capital improvements to the Plant were an
average of $9.3 million. The variance between all four manufacturers was +/-
$150,000. The total probable cost included an average cost of the membrane
system equipment, the installation of required systems by the contractor, and
contingency and technical services.
The Committee asked how much of the total probable cost is for the purchase of
the replacement modules. Mr. Hackman replied that the modules are
approximately 1/9th of the $9.3 million average, equating to roughly $1 million for
replacement modules. The remaining costs are other capital improvements that
are required for the retrofit.
City Manager Kiely clarified that the outstanding question that needs to be
answered is what the least costly alternative is in order to keep the Water Plant
functioning and the doors open. He said that currently, the City Council has no
other option on the table than to spend $9.3 million on the Water Plant. The
Council needs to understand what the options are and what the least costly
option is to keep the Plant functioning as-is. Once they have that information,
the Council can then decide if they want to spent more money to increase the
capacity at the Plant. Additionally, Finance Director Elizabeth Holleb will need to
determine what impact the costs will have on water rates. The Committee
agreed with City Manager Kiely’s comments.
Committee members asked Mr. Hackman what other communities that chose
AquaSource are doing to retrofit their Water Treatment Plants. Mr. Hackman
indicated that communities were polled originally, but can be polled again to
see what progress has been made at each location, if any.
The Committee agreed that the three manufacturers other than AquaSource
should also be given the opportunity to submit costs based on current MGD
capability. Additionally, the Committee felt that staff needs to demand
clarification on the statement in the letter stating that there would be no
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additional cost and determine if legal action is necessary. Mr. Hackman noted
that there is a timeline restriction in that it is unknown how long the membranes
that the City has on-hand will last. It’s important to work at a pace that
everyone is comfortable with, but it is approximately a five-year process.
Between now and the March budget meeting, the Committee would like to
review information from the Water Treatment Plants in California and elsewhere
in the United States that currently utilize AquaSource membranes and the base
cost to keep the Plant functioning at its current capacity. Mr. Hackman
indicated that the turnaround time for the base cost should be quick and could
potentially have information for the Committee to review at the November 19
meeting.
Mr. Hackman clarified that the non -membrane costs are spread out over a 20-
year period. These are costs that are recurring and would occur with or without
the retrofit.
Staff requested to proceed with the bid for the pre-algae screen project in
November. The proposed pre-algae system will work with any membrane system
and takes one of the two major capacity issues off the table. The construction is
scheduled to be completed before May when demand begins to increase. The
Committee agreed to proceed with the pre-algae system project.
VII. OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT: None.
VIII. OTHER (NOT ON THE AGENDA): Superintendent Ells updated the Committee on
the proposed improvements at the Deerpath and Route 41 intersection. IDOT
completed a traffic study and determined that the traffic at this intersection
warrants a traffic signal. The City needs to consider this option and how it will
impact traffic on Deerpath.
IDOT had the storm water lift station project funded in their 5-year program and
anticipated a total cost of $4.8 million. The total project cost is actually $8 million.
IDOT has proposed that they will pay the $8 million for the project, and in return,
the City would take ownership of the pump station. The traffic signals would fall
under the same agreement that the City has with the State for the other traffic
signals on State roadways. The City will receive a letter from IDOT outlining their
proposal and requesting a “Letter of Intent”, which is not binding. Detailed
design will not begin until IDOT receives a Letter of Intent from the City.
Superintendent Ells added that this project will not occur until FY18 or FY19.
The Committee agreed that the City needs to determine what the
capitalization/amortization over the useful life is and factor in annual operating
costs. Director Thomas added that he would like to ensure that Water Plant
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employees are involved in the design of the pump station. Superintendent Ells
noted that Water Plant staff would be involved in the design.
The Committee asked that staff prepare pros, cons, and costs associated with
this project. Once the letter is received, City Manager Kiely noted that it will be
City Council that signs off on the Letter of Intent. The Committee added that the
hospital should also weigh in on the proposed improvement by incorporating
their updated traffic information based on the new hospital.
No action was required.
IX. NEXT MEETING: Director Thomas proposed that the next Public Works Committee
Meeting be held on November 19, 2014 at 6:00 p.m. He will confirm this date
and time via email.
X. ADJOURNMENT: Alderman Moreno motioned to adjourn the meeting at 8:45 p.m.
Chairman Waldeck seconded the motion, which carried unanimously.
Respectfully submitted,
Donna Dunn
Assistant to the Director of Public Works